In a message dated 29/06/2011, LEICAFLEX said ... > Hi Howard, > Congrats on your 'catch'! > Howard, David, Dr. Ted and other listers, please take a look at my > hummer shot from sometime back: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ecky/3580893030/in/set-72157617461657396 > I used the pop-up flash of the Canon 20D and a Tamron zoom lens to > freeze the action of this hummer. > Please share your thoughts, pros and cons, on using flash to freeze > the action, vs. high shutter speed. > Hope to learn from the masters, > Eric OK, Eric. I looked, and here's what I see... 1) Direct flash always yields a very un-natural looking image. Direct flash, no matter whether it's a pop-up or full sized flash, is a very hard light. I avoid flash, in any guise, like the plague. And I think Dr. Ted will agree that if you MUST use flash, use bounce flash, or a diffuser, or both. It will still look like a flash shot, but it will look a bit "softer". 2) The high speed of the flash will freeze the wings, it's true. But when was the last time you saw a hummingbird with it's wings frozen, like that? To me, what you've achieved does not look at all natural. A little blur in the wings usually makes for a much more pleasing image. 3) Although Howard has used some high speeds to try to "freeze the action", he has not used flash to do it. His illumination on the underside of his hummers has come from reflectors, which give a much more natural looking light. 4) Even if you don't know what to look for, to determine it was illuminated by direct flash, you can tell by the location of the reflection of the flash in the front of the bird's eye. Had you used a tiny amount of "fill flash", you might have had a more natural "catch light", which would be at the top of the eye, as it reflects the sun. Of course, using fill flash also runs the risk of having two catch lights ... one natural, one not. Then it's really weird! 5) Although it's a minor point, you said you "used the pop-up flash of the 20D and a Tamron zoom lens" to freeze the action. The Tamron zoom lens had nothing to do with freezing the action. A side "benefit" of the Tamron is a somewhat harsh bokeh. You might want to consider a better lens for your Canon. You're on the right track. I suggest you turn off the flash, up the ISO, and lower your shutter speed - to freeze the body, but not the wings; for a more natural look. If the results have too much noise, run the final image through Neat Image, Noise Ninja, or some other, effective, noise reduction program. Again, to see what I mean, go to: http://www.furnfeather.net/Prints/Birds/bird-index.html Click on the hummer in the top middle of the thumbnails at the left and check it out. The "catch light" is actually a reflection of the clouds in the sky ... and in a 12x18" print, you can clearly see the individual clouds. By using 1/250th, we blur the wings, but keep the body sharp. Also, note how smooth the out of focus areas are and how they smoothly blend in to each other. That's a nice bokeh. Taken with a Canon 20D and a Leica 80~200/4 Vario Elmar. Sorry to come down hard on you, but you did ask! Cheers! -- David Young - Photographer Logan Lake, CANADA Wildlife: www.furnfeather.net Personal: www.main.furnfeather.net A micro-lender through www.Kiva.org. ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/