OK David You seem to be invoking my name a little too often for my comfort. Let's get few matters straight. When I read your survey and your pitch for the new management I thought you were a Leitz employee and I thought the survey had been issuesd by the company. I'm not sure, but are you saying that not taking part in your survey means not being constructive? I'm also not sure what you mean by most folks wanting to complain. Isn't it you and a few others who have been complaining about the old managers. Perhaps you shouldn't point fingers. Your call for doing something constructive seems naive. Leica is a business for profit not a charity. They know who I am because I have done business with the company before. If they want my advice they will ask for it and if I feel it's something I should do for free I will give it to them. Also Leica already has user forums and feedback forums on their website. They conduct surveys just like HP and IBM and Emmerson radio. I wouldn't have mentioned any of this except that you keep bring my name up. Finally, I remember meeting a few of thos old managers years ago in camera shows and camera shops. They were quite capable people. They understood what the problems were and unlike most users, they understood exactly why they couldn't do anything about it. Still, they managed to maintain the highest standards for quality in the industry and that's worth something. I guess my point is you can promote the new without trashing the old. Javier > However, it seems that most people would rather > just complain > (Javier.... I'm still waiting!) rather than do > something > constructive. Fewer than 10% of our members have > sent in their > survey. (Thanks, Elliot, for yours!) I hope I will > see many more, > soon. (Having gained "an ear" at Leica, I want to > use it to our > maximum advantage!) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/