[LRflex] Re: Thunderstorm last night

  • From: "Axel Collier" <axel.collier@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 09:50:15 +0200

This is getting way to technical for me, but the picture is in my opninion 
breathtaking.
greetings, axel
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Richard Ward 
  To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 8:37 AM
  Subject: [LRflex] Re: Thunderstorm last night


  Hi Aram!
     Great and Very Dangerous Photograph! Mega Kudo's.  I would like to now 
point you toward the topic of "Dark Frame Image Subtraction". This is what is 
almost certainly what was slowing your image writes down so much. Canon offers 
what they call "Long Exposure Noise Reduction" and it is (in my experience) 
easily turned off in your cameras custom function settings. What the 'Noise 
Reduction" is trying to do is prevent an occasional issue digital images 
sensors have when the shutter speeds increase where pixels get stuck on or give 
a repeated false signal and 'muck' up a photographer's image. What happens is, 
in your case, for every 5 second of 'image' you shot, the camera took a 5 
second image with the shutter closed, and subtracts any pixels that aren't 
black from the 'real' 5 second image you shot. This computer processing takes a 
bit and add in the 'write' time to record the final image and Voila! your 5 
second shot has become a 10-15sec wait before you can shoot again.

  I usually turn it Long Exposure Noise Reduction off in the custom functions 
area of my 20D. I prefer the extra responsiveness it gives, but it does add to 
my post production work. I was experimenting  with multi minute star trails 
landscapes and I;d be standing there freezing in the dark waiting forever for 
the blinking to stop!

  You might want to see if your version of Canon Software includes a way to 
'automatically' do this during downloads or raw processing. I've heard current 
Adobe Lightroom products can do this as well, but haven't ever encountered it 
personally and can't comment on it's effectiveness (same for the canon 
software).

  Richard


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  From: Aram Langhans <leica_r8@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 3:31:26 PM
  Subject: [LRflex] Thunderstorm last night


  We had a small thunderstorm roll through at dusk yesterday.  I have never 
seen lightning at this time of the day, where there was still some color in the 
sky and clouds, so I thought I'd give it a try.  I shot 50 frames and only 
caught lightning on two of them.  Had the camera (Rebel XTi) set on sequential 
exposure, and the shutter at 5 or 8 seconds, and the cable release clicked on 
so I did not have to stand there.  It would fire one shot, then write it to 
disk then fire the next shot.  Last time I did this was with my R8 and motor 
winder and it worked well.  Problem with the digital Rebel is that after each 5 
second exposure it took about 10 seconds to write the info to the card before 
it took the next shot.  So, I missed about 66% of the time.  And, every time I 
saw a great bolt, I looked over to the camera and it was still writing the 
previous exposure.  Drats.  Maybe a 50 D would write faster?  I think it has 
something to do with the null exposure when using long shutter speeds.  Maybe I 
could turn that off if I looked at the manual.
   
  did catch this one, however.  
  http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Aram/misc/-7.jpg.html  

   
  comments and criticism welcome.

  Aram

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