[LRflex] Re: The "not a REAL Leica lens" 70-210 zoom

  • From: Bille Xavier F. <hot_billexf@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:17:28 +0100

Walter, Doug, all,

I have currently a 80-200 with the mention "made in Japan" .....

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Xavier F. BILLE 

Maisons-Alfort - France.




> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:57:40 +1100
> From: walter.kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: The "not a REAL Leica lens" 70-210 zoom
> 
> Doug,
> 
> Yes, my understanding is that the 80-200 is a Leica design made by 
> Kyocera for Leica.  The 70-210 Leica lens is a Minolta design but 
> specked up and made by Minolta in Japan for Leica.  Personally I get a 
> lot of satisfaction and good results from using older lenses and the 
> price is right.  I would encourage people to explore this option now 
> that one can mount legacy glass on micro four thirds cameras. I have a 
> 50mm Summicron DR which I sometimes mount on my Pana G1 and the special 
> character of that lens is not lost.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Douglas Sharp wrote:
> > Walter,
> > And I seem to have read somewhere that the 80-200 is a Kyocera.
> >
> > I certainly agree on your last point - it's the "character" of a lens 
> > that is important, not its clinical, technical perfection.
> >
> > I have a couple of "cheap & nasties" that produce a wonderful atmosphere 
> > in certain shots. E.g. a Steinheil Cassarit 2.8/45 for a Braun Paxette 
> > (Braun screw mount) that makes gorgeous misty pictures like an immensely 
> > expensive Softar when used on bellows.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Douglas
> >
> > On 12.02.2010 11:12, Walter Kramer wrote:
> >   
> >> Hate to add to confusion but I am led to conclude from online research
> >> that the Leica 70-210 f4.0 is a Minolta design specked up to Leica
> >> requirements and sold as a Leica lens.
> >>
> >> I sold one of these for the 80-200 f4.0 however my conclusion after
> >> using both is that the 70-210 is a very fine lens in it's own right and
> >> has a character different to the 80-200 especially with regard to tone
> >> and bokeh ... yet not as sharp.
> >>
> >> Sharpness and resolution aren't the be all and end all, so much so in
> >> this case that I am considering re-acquiring the 70-210 for its special
> >> qualities - never sell a Leica or Leica *simulacrum*?
> >>
> >>    
> >>     
> >
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