[LRflex] Re: TELE-VARIOGON
- From: Robert Meier <robertmeier@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 21:14:00 -0600 (CST)
Richard,
I think you're right, especially about the films. I think the film
makes more difference than the lens, and both together are what
created that distinctive look. Perhaps one of the Czech or
Hungarian or Serbian film makers would like to start producing Super XX.
Robert
On Jan 12, 2011, at 8:51 PM, Richard Ward wrote:
> Hi Robert,
> the difficulties you encountered recreating '30s and '40s era
> imagery
> surprised me at first, but when I paused to contemplate it a rush
> of theories
> came to me which would easily account for having such a
> difficulties. The films
> are incredibly different today, so are papers, chemistry,
> enlargers, enlarging
> lenses, the variables are almost ad infinitum I guess. I -suspect-
> those
> variables, no matter your rigor, are almost insurmountable using
> physical crafts
> and physical equipments. ie: you'd probably have to go 'digital' to
> fully
> recreate the aesthetics in software. That, or choose to be -
> evoking- that
> classic aesthetic within the limits of silver-halide photography.
>
> Richard in Michigan
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> From: Robert Meier <robertmeier@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 8:19:51 PM
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: TELE-VARIOGON
>
> Last year I took a foray into the realm of getting the look of
> pictures taken in the 30's and 40's by shooting with a 3.5cm Elmar, a
> 9cm Elmar, and a 5 cm Summitar, all uncoated. I shot them on an M6
> TTL and an M4, but that's neither here nor there. For the most part
> I was not successful in getting the look of those decades as seen in
> published photographs: my results were too sharp, too clean, too
> modern. The two pictures I have in the new LUG 2010 book are with
> the 3.5cm and the 9cm Elmars and they look like they could have been
> taken with much more modern lenses.
>
> On Jan 12, 2011, at 7:03 PM, Aram Langhans wrote:
>
>> There would be one reason, however. If you wanted the effect that
>> the lens
>> gave. Might be interesting. Who knows. But I would not expect
>> nice sharp
>> pictures across the board.
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Axel Collier" <axel.collier@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 1:06 PM
>> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: TELE-VARIOGON
>>
>>> Thank you Aram
>>> Somehow i expected this kind of answer,
>>> i guess this must be true.
>>> I suppose it would be wiser to invest my money in leica glass ;-)
>>> greetings, Axel
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Aram Langhans" <leica_r8@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:25 PM
>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: TELE-VARIOGON
>>>
>>>
>>>> I don't think I would get any old era zoom if you wanted great
>>>> picture
>>>> quality. Early zoom technology was too much of a compromise. I
>>>> don't
>>>> care
>>>> if it is a Schneider or a Soligor.
>>>>
>>>> Aram
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Axel Collier" <axel.collier@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 12:13 AM
>>>> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [LRflex] TELE-VARIOGON
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everybody
>>>>> did anybody ever use a
>>>>> TELE-VARIOGON Schneider Kreuznach 1:4/80-240mm
>>>>> http://captjack.exaktaphile.com/Schneider%20page.htm
>>>>> i found one in Leica R mount, rather cheap, and i think it looks
>>>>> very
>>>>> cool
>>>>> but what about the pictures one can take with it ?
>>>>> Just being curious ;-)
>>>>> greetings, Axel
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