[LRflex] Re: Simplicity

  • From: Philippe Amard <phamard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:37:31 +0100

Hi Bob
M3: are you refering to a BMW? ;-)
Cheers
Phileicangenieux.


Bob Shaw wrote:

>Harry:
>
>For sure, it resonates.
>
>Wish I still had my '91 300E (with the SINGLE overhead cam, inline 6). =20=
>
>A great car at any speed (especially the "less legal" speeds).
>
>Now I drive the IDS Mk II of automobiles; a 2004 Prius.  Three onboard=20=
>
>computers constantly chatting each other up, big LCD screen etc.=20
>digital on/off button, etc.  But it's very, very Green and really does=20=
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>use precious little fuel.  So far one of the best cars I've ever owned.
>
>BUT:  All thing considered, the 300E was probably the best (not the=20
>fastest or the biggest, OK?) car Mercedes ever engineered.  Can't begin=20=
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>to imagine what a similarly-built car would cost, today.
>
>Same could be said for an M3 or even an R3MOT, don't you think?
>
>
>Bob in Seattle
>
>
>
>On Dec 21, 2006, at 11:41, rvbayexplorer@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
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>I read most all of the emails and love the photos; I=92m in awe of Doug=20=
>
>Herr=92s wildlife pic=92s.
>.I almost feel like an eavesdropper
>
>but I=92m hesitant to add my thoughts since I consider myself such a=20
>photographic amateur that I=92m really not qualified to criticize or=20
>comment
>
>but in this case I do have something to add.
>
>I started out with a Nikon Photomic Ftn system (still have it with some=20=
>
>great lenses including one of my all time favorites the 2.8/55 micro).=20=
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>I also have an R3Mot with a 2/50, 2.8/90 and 2.8/135 although I=20
>understand that some pooh pooh the Minolta connection. I=92m partial to=20=
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>the Leica lenses
>the most common, the 2/50 Summicron I consider truly great
>I even like the 135 that=92s not supposed to be great! Unfortunately=20
>these film cameras give me unpredictable results. Some good shots ,=20
>some bad a few that I love. Typically shoot
>..wait several days to a week for the processing then
>Damn!
>jiggled the camera or wrong exposure, someone blinked
>
>etc etc etc. then I got a Canon D60. What a difference! Shoot a hundred=20=
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>exposures, correct as you go with generally good results led me to what=20=
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>I now have, a 1Ds Mk II. What=92s fabulous about the EOS is that I get =
>to=20
>not only use some excellent Canon L glass but I also get to use the=20
>Leica lenses
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>and the Nikon lenses
>and great Zeiss lense
>  s
>etc.
>  I must say that I get what I think are great shots even if they are=20
>mostly of family and friends. That doesn=92t mean I don=92t still like =
>to=20
>get out the old film cameras and look at them, handle them and even=20
>shoot a roll of film now and then (however lately it=92s mostly then).
>
>But I do think I also have a perspective on the film/digital argument=20
>because I have a mint, 1984 Mercedes 300D Turbodiesel that I will=20
>likely never sell. I drive it almost every day and L-o-v-e it.=20
>Exceptionally high quality (nothing like the kachunk of a 300D door=20
>closing), talk about simplicity; no catalytic converter; manual seat=20
>adjustment,; manual side mirror adjustment, legendary reliability=20
>(Mercedes did the initial diesel engine design of this car in 1936),=20
>fuel efficient, bulletproof ; I even love the noisy diesel and the=20
>smell of the exhaust. A great car that I not only truly appreciate
>but kind of worship. However I also understand that ABS brakes,=20
>traction control, air bags, crash testing, four wheel drive, computer=20
>controlled fuel systems, catalytic converters and pollution controls,=20
>vast improvements in automatic transmission design, etc. in the final=20
>analysis really make for a better automobile albeit a more complex and=20=
>
>even finicky one.
>
>But I=92m keeping my Mercedes!
>
>Does this at all resonate?
>
>Harry
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>From: Charlie Falke <chfalke@xxxxxxx>
>  
>
>>telyt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>The simplicity of the SL and SL2 also appeal to me (along with the=20
>>>beauty
>>>of the incomparable Leicaflex viewfinders) so they remain my
>>>carry-everywhere cameras=3D2E  What I like about my digital camera=20
>>>(R8/DMR i=3D
>>>n
>>>my case) is the image quality particularly compared with film at high=20=
>>>      
>>>
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>  
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>>>ISO,=3D
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>>>auto white balance, the extremely low cost of the dud photos, the=20
>>>instant
>>>feedback, and the quick transfer to the computer, which is how I=20
>>>print my
>>>photos whether film-origin or digital=3D2E
>>>
>>>What I dislike most about the Leicaflexes - actually the ONLY thing I
>>>dislike about the Leicaflexes - is high-ISO films=3D2E  What I =
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>dislike=20
>  
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>>>most
>>>about digital cameras is the support hardware: chargers, batteries,=20=
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>>>backup=3D
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>>>      
>>>
>>Doug,
>>   I agree.  I would place the digital state of the art of digital
>>photography where electronic flash was when the available
>>units could either function well or work on the internal batteries,
>>but not at the same time.
>>   They will get there as the hardware improves.
>>Look at the first electronic flash.  You could have acceptable recycle
>>times, or run on the internal batteries, or enough light, pick any =
>>    
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>two.
>  
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>>   I'm not a luddite, (I made my first digital audio recording in =
>>    
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>1987,
>  
>
>>and haven't looked back), but I like machinery that isn't fussy
>>or trailing wall warts.
>>   Doug, which PX-625 solution did you end up with?
>>--=20
>>Charlie Falke                                         _____      /\
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>>"One test result is worth                        |    |/        `o
>>  one thousand expert opinions" - Wernher Von Braun   0  N4003M
>>"Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein
>>
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