[LRflex] Re: SD14 people and skin
- From: Richard Ward <ilovaussiesheps@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 09:57:48 -0700 (PDT)
please pardon truncated first post!
Lacey the Cat got rambunctios and I had to go for Saturday night poker with the
siblings. :-)
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From: Richard Ward <ilovaussiesheps@xxxxxxxxx>
To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 5:36:14 PM
Subject: [LRflex] Re: SD14 people and skin
Hi Walter & Mike,
I wanted to make an observation on your comments regarding Sigma's SLRs, I'm
seeing some 'rough' analogies to the challenges Leica is negotiating regarding
the Digital Leica cameras. You first note thinking they can't keep up or
compete (assuming Can/Nik) then observe that they don't seem to be really
playing on the same field. I'd say Sigma has carved or found a niche for their
slr's and is trying to make some profits supplying that market. The camera body
development's and the fovenon sensor's development has to be paid for some way
or another and I laud them for giving it a go. The successes of sub 20mp 4/3rds
cameras lately will hopefully give them some clues to growing the market they
have for the Fovenon cameras. The Megapixel wars might be seeing some of their
final skirmishes in the '35mm' scale arena.
The Narrow markets and growing niche products is part n parcel of what
Leica is trying to survive and thrive under (fingers crossed for it - They
could use good luck!). I want Leica around, I wish they played in the SLR 35mm
sized market, or return to it - don't find it likely - but who knows. I think
they've embraced surprising product launches and camera types. Who knows what
kind of partnerships and things they'll dive into attempting to make a niche or
drive a market. They don't seem to have hesitated scraping profits out of the
P&S market and the x1 seems to give the big sensor "little camera" market a
popular product. I wouldn't put it past them to give a Fovenon R Mount a whirl.
Who'd a thunk they'd be using Kodak (the dead film company!) to put CCD sensors
in their M cameras! Startled me to hear it, that's for sure.
By the way - there's a 'logic flaw' in a sentence that says "can't compete
with (Can/Nik) but don't really play on the same field". If they aren't on the
same field, they aren't competitors then are they, to carry the 'sports
analogy' to an annoying extreme! :-) Ha Ha.
I hope the megapixel wars.
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From: Walter Kramer <walter.kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 9:21:48 AM
Subject: [LRflex] Re: SD14 people and skin
Mike,
As far as I know Sigma will shortly release the SD15 but with the same
sensor as the SD14 and improved ergs, ISO and software. I don't think
they can keep up or compete but it doesn't seem to me that they are
really playing in the same field. People who use Sigma cameras use them
because they like the results they get from the sensor and they put up
with the shortcomings of the camera which are well known and mostly to
do with shooting in low light, poor review screen and slow write speed.
Walter
Mike B. wrote:
> I hear that it has a different look - but wonder if Sigma can keep up with
> newer technology.
> The SD14 is like 4 years old now???
> A friend loves his DP1 for all it's faults and bought it after a sour
> experience with the C Lux 3.
>
> Sigma has always made "good glass" - I don't know whom builds their flash
> gear but it is rumored to be top-notch.
>
> --- On Fri, 4/2/10, David Young <dsy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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