[LRflex] Re: Reading the LR2 manual.....

  • From: Steve Barbour <kididdoc@xxxxxxx>
  • To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 15:01:06 -0700


On Oct 2, 2008, at 2:36 PM, Miha Golobic wrote:

I give credit to David for advocating not Leica but us who are using
the R system. He is one of the guys who encouraged me to make a step
(a small one, for now) into it.

we sincerely welcome you Miha... and we don't forget that David is/was a staunch leader and advocate for Leica R.

He believes in it, as do we all...so as I have said, we are all on the same team and we shouldn't let a family squabble suggest otherwise...

David is a staunch leader, sometimes it seems to me, too staunch, given his most horrible experience with Leica R/DMR...

he actually deserves to be running around shooting with one now, a fully functional one, a free one...

and not waiting for yet more inept repairs...and not being an advocate for them.

If I was in his shoes, and I met Herr Kaufman, I would have been tempted at least, to verbally, kick him in his teeth...


Steve



Regards,
Miha

2008/10/2 Steve Barbour <kididdoc@xxxxxxx>:

On Oct 2, 2008, at 1:42 PM, David Young wrote:

Steve commented::

they are either ahead of the game... or 6-7  years too late....

Hi Steve:

If, by "they", you mean Hr. Kaufmann and the current team at Leica, they cannot be "6 -7 years too late" as they have only been there about 2.5
years.

oh by they,  I mean Leica...

I know, from talking to both Hr. Kaufmann and Steven Lee,  that Hr.
Kaufmann has a great commitment to Leica and to the R system.  This
commitment is one of the reasons that Lee was hired... he was a long time R
user, before coming to Leica.

Hr. Kaufmann knows, I'm sure, that he is "a day late and a dollar short", but he is committed to deliver an R10 that should satisfy most R users. I think it would be here, now, except for their desire to bring the S2 to
market.  With Leica's low production, high value products and long
development cycles, the S2 is ideally suited for them. But they only have
resources for one major project at a time.

I would like to have faith in them, but with all the fainting and weaving, experience has taught me to remain entirely unimpressed by what they say...

and David, forgive me, but it's risky for you to be an apologist for
them...we are on the same team, but at times you sound like a hostage
advocating for the terrorists.

The R10 will be a "tougher sell" for the general market...but I think that if they do it right (going for the R7 size/weight is a good start) the R10 will be introduced to great sales, as R users move to it as M users moved to the M8. Whether they can garner more of the general dSLR market, after
that, will remain to be seen.

However, people buy small Nikons and Canons because the Pros use the large Nikons & Canons. If the S2 captures a decent share of the pro market, those looking for an upscale dSLR will buy the R10 because the Pros are using Leicas. Hell, it worked for me. In 1965, I bought a Nikon F because
the pros were using them!

Only time will tell, but I think Leica is on the right track, even if it
isn't the track for us, until sometime in 2010.

Cheers!

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David Young,
Logan Lake, CANADA

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