[LRflex] Re: R-10 Survey Results...
- From: "Gary Pinkerton" <gpinkcp@xxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:08:27 -0500
Thanks David
Interesting outcome.
>From: David Young <telyt@xxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [LRflex] R-10 Survey Results...
>Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:01:21 -0700
>
>All:
>As promised, here are the results of the R-10 "Wish List" survey.
>
>Many people are very insistent that their pet feature is paramount,
>and that I must somehow take that into account. However, sometimes
>features, such as 'live view" , while intensely popular with a few,
>are deeply unpopular with most. I fear that many will not be pleased
>with the results!
>
>Please don't shoot me... I don't make up the answers... I just report
>them! The survey will go to Leica (in the form presented below)
>Wednesday.
>
>BTW: I am very disappointed with the turnout... of over 240 members,
>just over 50 bothered to complete the questionnaire. To all those
>who did, my most sincere thanks. You did a fine job and it was fun
>compiling the answers. :-)
>
>Cheers!
>
>David.
>
>
>-------------------------------
>
>
>[1] A fine grained 35mm film is equivalent to about 22 million
>pixels. However, given the current state of the art, the more pixels
>packed onto a chip, the smaller each one will be. Thus, more
>application is needed resulting in more "noise". OTOH, each
>generation of chips improves things a bit. Assuming that noise can
>be held to the same levels as currently enjoyed by the DMR, how many
>pixels would you like to see in the next "R" camera?
>
>[A] 10mp? 2.2%
>[B] 12mp? 10.9%
>[C] 14mp? 13.0%
>[D] 16mp? 23.9%
>[E] 18mp? 8.7%
>[F] 20mp? 23.9%
>[G] Don't care. 17.4%
>
>[2] Full frame sensors create their own problems with vignetting, due
>to the angle the light rays hit the outer pixels. This problem is
>less pronounced in reflex cameras than in rangefinder ones, due to
>the need to keep the rear lens elements out of the way of the mirror.
>And, they allow wide angle lenses to work as they were
>intended. APS-C sized sensors (as in the current DMR) are lower in
>cost, have virtually no vignetting problems and give an advantage to
>tele lens users. Your preference for sensor size would be...
>
>[A] Full Frame 56.5%
>[B] APS-C or 15.2%
>[C] somewhere in between? 28.3%
>
>
>[3] Sensor format: Many small "Point & Pray" digi-cameras use the
>16:9 aspect ratio of the new wide screen TV's. 35mm (and the M8, DMR
>and nearly all other dSLR's) uses the classic 3:2 format. Should
>the next "R" camera use
>
>[A] the classic 3:2 (35mm) format or 93.5%
>[B] the new 16:9 "wide screen" format? 4.3%
>
>
>[4] Many have criticized the R8 and R9 for their size.... yet praised
>them for their ergonomics. Would you prefer the mythical "R10" to be
>
>[A] similar in size to the R8 & R9, 41.3%
>[B] similar to the R8 or R9 with DMR (or motor drive) attached 8.7%
>[C] smaller, like the R4 through 7 models, 30.4%
>[D] somewhere in between the R7 and R9 or 19.6%
>[E} even larger than the R9 w/DMR? 0.0%
>
>
>[5] Newer, polycarbonate bodied cameras are considerably lighter than
>the current 'R' cameras from Leica. How important is it to you that
>the next generation be lighter bodies?
>
>[A] Very important 28.3 %
>[B] not important or 45.7 %
>[C] doesn't matter. 26.1 %
>
>
>[6] Current R cameras offer a variety of exposure modes... Aperture
>Priority, Shutter Priority, Programme mode and Manual. Please
>indicate which mode (A, S, P, M) you use the most and give a
>percentage of use. (For instance, I use only Aperture Priority, so
>my answer would be A - 100%. Someone else might be A - 60%, P -
>40%) Please list all modes you use and the percentages you use each one.
>
>Aperture Priority 56%
>Shutter Priority 5%
>Program Mode 16%
>Manual 23%
>
>
>[7] Current R cameras offer Spot, Center-weighted and Matrix
>metering. Please list the exposure modes (S,C,M) and the percentages
>of use for each, (as above).
>
>Spot metering: 39.4%
>Center-weighted: 22.2%
>Matrix Metering: 38.5%
>
>
>[8] Current Autofocus cameras utilize plastic (polycarbonate) lens
>barrels. Their lower mass means that they can be focused more quickly
>with smaller motors (read lightweight and longer battery
>life). Would you want the next R to have autofocus if it meant
>going to such lenses?
>
>[A] Yes. 42.2%
>[B] No. 57.8%
>
>
>[9] If Leica were able to build autofocus lenses that maintained the
>traditional Leica build quality and materials (as well as decent
>battery life), would you want the next 'R" camera to have
>autofocus?
>
>[A] Yes 52.2%
>[B] No. 47.8%
>
>
>[10] If you prefer not to have autofocus, or if you would use
>existing Leica MF lenses on the new 'R' camera, how important is
>focus confirmation?
>
>[A] Very important 28.3%
>[B] Somewhat important 47.8%
>[C] Not important at all. 24.4%
>
>
>
>[11] If Leica were (able) to design autofocus lenses for the 'R'
>series... such a change might necessitate a different lens
>mount. How important is it that any newer lens mount be compatible
>with your existing R lenses?
>
>[A] Absolutely must be compatible, 82.2%
>[B] it would be nice, but not absolutely necessary 15.6%
>[C] not important at all. 2.2%
>
>
>
>[12] If the lens mount were to be changed, it might be possible to
>make an adapter which would allow the use of existing lenses in
>Aperture Priority mode only. Would this route be
>
>[A] acceptable to you 73.3%
>[B] Not acceptable? 26.7%
>
>
>[13] How important is it to you to have a large LCD screen for
>menus/'chimping"?
>
>[A] Very important, 26.7%
>[B] somewhat important, 55.6%
>[C] not important. 17.8%
>
>
>[14] Bearing in mind that having "live view" in an SLR means
>siphoning some light from the finder to a second sensor, how
>important "live view" ... ie: the LCD screen constantly shows what
>the camera is "seeing"?
>
>[A] Very important 8.9%
>[B] somewhat important, 6.7%
>[C] not important. 84.4%
>
>
>[15] The R8 & R9 finders are amongst the brightest and best anywhere,
>and probably second only to the finders in the Leica SL. How
>important is finder brightness to you? Should the next 'R' camera's
>finder be:
>
>[A] as bright as the SL's finder, 44.4%
>[B] as bright as the R8/9, 37.8%
>[C] as bright as the R7 finder 8.9%
>[D] acceptable at a lower level of brightness. 6.7%
>
>
>[16] How important is battery life? Remember the longer the life,
>the larger (and heavier) the battery. So, within the constraints of
>reasonable weight and size (and the number of shot you take in an
>average day) , how many shots would you like to see on a single
>charge.
>
>[A] 150 (the current DMR's level) 20.0%
>[B] 190 (the current M8's level) 26.7%
>[C] 250 40.0%
>[D] 400 or more? 13.3%
>
>
>[17] Speed is an issue. Do you use a winder or motor with your
>current camera. How fast should the next "R" be capable of
>shooting?
>
>[A] 2 fps, 33.3%
>[B] 4 fps, 55.6%
>[C] 6 fps, 11.1%
>[C] more. 0.0%
>
>
>[18] The other speed issue is that of writing to the memory
>cards. Faster writing means you can empty the buffer and shoot more
>rapidly, but faster processors consume more battery power. To you, is
>
>
>[A] battery life more important than card writing speed, or 40.0%
>[B] speed of writing to cards more important than battery life? 60.0%
>
>
>[19] Mechanical noise is always a factor in any camera. Recently I
>used a Nikon D-200 and was pleasantly surprised at it's lower noise
>level. How important is it to you that the new "R" be mechanically
>quieter than the current models?
>
>[A] very important, 31.1%
>[B] not too important or 57.8%
>[C] not important at all. 11.1%
>
>
>[20] Price is always a factor. Remembering that the new M8 is
>approximately US$5000 and the R9/DMR combo is around $7,500, what
>would you expect pay for a new Leica 'R' - assuming it has most of
>the features you want?
>
>[A] $4000, 28.9%
>[B] $5000, 48.9%
>[C] $6000, 15.6%
>[D] $7000, 4.4%
>[E] $8000, 2.2%
>[F] More than $8000. 0.0%
>
>
>
>
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>
>David Young,
>Logan Lake, CANADA
>
>Wildlife Photographs: http://www.telyt.com/
>Personal Web-pages: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt
>
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