Hello Dave, I use Pelican cases for many years for my Leica (M & R ) equipment, and for video- and audiogear as well. I am very content with these cases, I use them mostly on hikings in extreme country and on canoetrips. I also use Rimowa-cases, Temba-bags and LowePro-rucksacks. But when I have depent on protection and waterproof I use the Pelicancases. I also have a special Pelican-case for my laptop! And they (at least in The Netherlands) provide very good after-sales-services. Regards from The Hague Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: David Simms To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: zaterdag 5 december 2009 19:17 Subject: [LRflex] Pelican cases, etc.. Hello fellow Leicaphiles; I wonder whether I could get a bit of help with comments re. protective gear for equipment. I take cameras and lenses to places where it's possible to bang them around a bit too much; skiing, climbing and hiking. This week, for example, I've been out every day taking pictures of ice growth on some of our local waterfalls. I'm very attentive to protecting camera gear but I don't yet have a foolproof system. Last year, I bumped the rewind knob on my M4-2 and had to have it repaired. Luckily, it was long overdue for attention and it several other issues dealt with at the time. Nevertheless, I don't want to make equipment damage a regular thing. Since I often carry gear in a pack (I used to use a Lowe Pro fanny pack and I often stuffed it, with its contents, into a regular pack) and, I've settled on a solution for lenses. I'll use short pieces of PVC pipe, cut to the right length and lined with closed cell foam or felt or some other shock absorbing material. With the end caps placed on the pipe, this should be fine for lenses. For a camera body, I'll use a Pelican case. However, with reference to these, I'm not quite sure how much extra space to allow, in the thickness, to insure good shock absorbtion. Unless one examines these in person it's tough to come up with the right guidelines. So, if the height of an M is 8cm and the measurement from the back to the end of the lens is roughly the same, how much extra space should I allow for padding, in a Pelican (or similar case) ? If I look for a model that gives the interior thickness dimension as 10 cm, 12 cm etc. ? Would that be sufficient ? Is anyone, out there, using Pelican cases ? Thanks for your help. Dave, Clearwater, BC, Canada ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!