Hello Philippe, thank you for your comments regarding using and owning your Panasonic L1. There is incredible appeal in being able to step down from a gripped midrange body or a 1D type beast into something slim, trim, and a joy to use. If I was to win a big cash lottery or something, the perfect option is an M9 :-) because of being a journey into a whole different photographic craft while only making, at worst, a lateral shift in image quality potential. <<Soapbox Moment>> I think all to often the importance of the 'Craft' of the Photographer isn't communicated well enough as the worlds collective community of photographers debate, discuss, and comment about which camera is best, which lens is best, which software is best, and the holy grail of whose gizmo is better than someone else's gizmo based on x,y,z of this-that-or the other features. Quite sincerely, I'd take Cartier Bresson with an iPhone Camera over a buzzworded buffoon bulked up on a big bucks bag of stuff who can debate high speed aperture optics, but can't judiciously choose an aperture for a given scene. Thank heavens for the Leicareflex List and other communities of it's ilk - there is hope for Photographs & Photographers. To steal a phrase from the environmental folks - Think global, Act local. I try to do this by using my old Zeiss Pancolar M42 Fifty to show a person what lenses and apertures and focusing actually physically does. It's such a blast to see the wheels in peoples heads start to turn as our hobbies' old crafts become clear to them, sometimes for the very first times. <<Stepping Off Soapbox>> We now return to our regulary scheduled email. :-) > It causes me to inquire about your opinions on the DMC-L1 camera > itself. "It has become a second self - its operation is manually intuitive as on a good ol' camera :-)" Glorious praise for any camera. Period. I dearly love my 20D and the ergonomics & operational gestalt of EOS Bodies appeal to me quite strongly, but there is quite an intellectual overhang to always have to negotiate when using them. I didn't really notice it until pulling my Rolleiflex off the shelf last winter and running a roll through it. "> I generally 'worship' at the altar of big sensors - big details - > big resolutions, and rightly do a smaller sensor prevents you from enlarging too much, or from cropping too much - for the rest, only pixel peepers might tell I'm now sure." Sensor size actually exceptionally worries me in considering my 'smaller' camera options. To be honest, when I visit your newly posted LUG gallery images, I often am 'aware' early on that an image came from a 'smaller sensor'. The same extends to the Gorgeous images being postd from New Zealand. The moments captured on those Pacific Islands are absolutely terrific, the compositions are great, and frankly photographic lightning pops in many, many of the frames. Period. I am also frequently left wondering whether a camera with a bigger sensor would have been a much much better choice for these images. Micro contrasts, edge definitions, shadow details, it's hard to plug a specific adjective into what I'm looking at. It might not be fair at all to look with the 'yardsticks' I guess I'm carrying, but then my photographs and my photography has benefited mightily by measuring my own images and craft by quite high standards. I worry about having 'enough' in the smaller sensor to comfortable say there is 'enough' in my images to be comfortable. Very personal choice and definitely one to be made individually, Philippe. "> What do you like best about it it is mine and I use it :-)" and USING it is what cameras are for and NOT using them or NOT using them often enough makes our photographs suffer for it! "In any case both the Digilux and the L1 have been (long) discontinued." Two Questions. Is there anything specific which would cause you to wave someone off from purchasing a Used L1/Digilux? What do you think of the new Micro 4/3rds Panasonic & Olympus cameras which have come out? When I read on dpReview of staff and reviewers with access to cabinets full of review equiment are spending their own money to purchase these 4/3rds 'Gems' - it really gives me pause to think. Especially when that new mount gives a viable route to going digital with pretty much any legacy 35mm lens mount. Thanks for your input and thoughts Philippe, I am the wiser for them and also Thank You for the wonderful images and imagemaking you share, as well. Richard ________________________________ ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/