Well, you have to define "fun". For 35 years most of my macro work was done with my Rollei SL-35, a bellows and a Zeiss 135/4 Tessar lens. Worked just fine. A bit of a bother because you have to do two lens mountings. Attach bellows then attach lens to bellows. If I had owned a dedicated short mount lens for the bellows I would not have to release the lens each time I needed to use it. When I went to Leica in the late 90's, I bought a bellows with the 100/4 Leica short mount macro. That is what I was use to. Worked fine. Needed to replace the cloth bellows once. That was not a big deal, just ordered a new owe from Novoflex. Then an opportunity came up to buy a 100/4 macro lens with focusing. Did that. Not sure why. Same quality as the short mount. Indeed, the same lens I think. I found it limiting since it did not focus 1:1, or even 1:2. Sold it. Then I bought the 100/2.8 APO Macro. No looking back. Have the 1:1 Elpro, too. Wish it focused all the way from infinity to 1:1, like the short mount on the bellows, but optically, no comparison. Sold the short mount but kept the bellows for ultra close-up work. Slap my 50/2 with reversing ring and can really get close with good results. Never measured it, but perhaps 2 or 2.5x. Not as sharp as a luminar or some such ultra close-up, but it gets a shot if needed. I had though I could mount my 100/2.8 on the bellows, but it will not mount. Novoflex says I could update the mounting flange for $150, but decided not to do that. I did not know the ROM mount is different than the non-ROM mount just enough it will not work on my old Novoflex bellows built for the R4. If you can get the bellows for cheap, use existing lenses, it is a good option. Or find a nice old short mount macro lens. If you want to go beyond 1:1, then they are great. I do fine a dedicated focusing macro more convenient. It is certainly sturdier. That bellows hanging out there always scared me. I was afraid I would crimp it or damage it somehow. And when it was raining I had to be sure to protect it and wipe it down good, store it open until it was very dry then collapse it. I didn't do that once and it was stuck. Had to very carefully pry it open. Aram -------------------------------------------------- From: "Axel Collier" <axel.collier@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 10:49 AM To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [LRflex] PB-6 bellows macro focusing > Hi all > just wondering : is it fun to use bellows like the PB-6 (for NIkon), and > are they "usefull" for macro ? Are there people on the list with > experiences with it ? If yes, what lens did you use for it ? If you think > it is a stupid idea, why ? > Just wondering ... > greetings, Axel > ------ > Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: > http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ > Archives are at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ > ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/