BTW I was incorrect previously.....Panasonic actually skipped LX4 on their product numbering and went straight to LX5 - the number 4 is unlucky for the Japanese (& Chinese). So the updated pair of cousins are Leica D-Lux 5 and Panasonic Lumix LX5. Eric ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/