On May 4, 2010, at 9:10 AM, David Scollard wrote: > Here's what Stephen Gandy says: > > Incompatible CL Lenses??? When the CL was new, Leica made it clear the CL's > 40/2 Summicron and 90/4 Elmar (or the 40/2 and 90/4 Rokkors for the Japanese > market) may not focus correctly on M cameras. The reason given was the > different shape of the CL lenses' focusing cam. As time went on, users > became more and more suspicious that this incompatibility claim may have > been marketing hype so the inexpensive CL lenses would not decrease sales of > the more expensive M lenses. Perhaps some CL lenses really don't focus > accurately with some M bodies, but I have yet to see it. This issue is a > matter of hot dispute, depending a lot upon how much you trust father Leitz. > The Voigtlander 50/2 Heliar is the only collapsible 50 I know of that can be > safely collapsed into the CL. > > The whole article is available on CameraQuest. > > I remember reading about the time the CL and CLE first came out that > Leica-badge lenses were not compatible, but the Minolta lenses were. I agree with David....take some time to consider these issues with a review of Steve Gandy's Cameraquest web site info, that I believe will truly pay off... Steve > > best, David Scollard > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:32 AM > Subject: [LRflex] Re: Not an R camera - Leica CL > > > I can not speak to the issue you raise..... > > Ask the group.... someone will know if there is a real issue or not...... > > > Frank Filippone > red735i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > -----Original Message----- > From: leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Ward > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:29 AM > To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [LRflex] Re: Not an R camera - Leica CL > > Ola' Frank, > don't quote this as 'gospel', I've only got 'net postings as sourcing!, > but there is some sort of issue regarding the rangefinding cam's and some > kind of issue calling up frameline sets regarding C lenses. I had wanted > dearly for it to be as simple as bayoneting the things on, but while the > mount is compatible, there are 'supposedly' things standing in the way of > 100% workability on M bodies. The 'impression' I have is that it's an > operations issue, not fitting issue, and seems to only affect 'some' > shooting situations. Recall my first sentence in this post! I had tried to > craft my earlier post's words carefully "but alas it appears it isn't as > simple as just mounting it to an M8." but ended up being well written at the > expense of being well said. > Richard in Michigan > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Frank Filippone <red735i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 11:12:44 AM > Subject: [LRflex] Re: Not an R camera - Leica CL > > Why do you say this? CL lenses are M mount... and an M8 is an M-Mount. > What problem have you determined/found/seen in this combination? The only > issue I can see is the 6 bit coding... which may be possible with Milich > milled coding on the lens mounts........ > > BTW, the M cameras ( all of them) work fine with the LTM lenses as > well.....and with the new 6 bit coded LTM to M mount adapters, the M8 issue > is resolved really easily..... > > > Frank Filippone > red735i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > I've penciled a Digital M8 in for future acquisition and won't be able to > afford new M lenses and am looking at used M, used LTM, and new & used CV > glass to use with it. I looked quite hopefully towards using CL lenses - the > prices are adorable from an 'M' perspective!, but alas it appears it isn't > as simple as just mounting it to an M8. > > Richard in Michigan > > > > ------ > Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: > http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ > Archives are at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ > > > > > > ------ > Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: > http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ > Archives are at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ > > > ------ > Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: > http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ > Archives are at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ > > ------ > Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: > http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ > Archives are at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/