[LRflex] Re: Not an R camera - Leica CL

  • From: Steve Barbour <steve.barbour@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 09:18:56 -0700

On May 4, 2010, at 9:10 AM, David Scollard wrote:

> Here's what Stephen Gandy says:
> 
> Incompatible CL Lenses??? When the CL was new, Leica made it clear the CL's 
> 40/2 Summicron and 90/4 Elmar (or the 40/2 and 90/4 Rokkors for the Japanese 
> market) may not focus correctly on M cameras. The reason given was the 
> different shape of the CL lenses' focusing cam. As time went on, users 
> became more and more suspicious that this incompatibility claim may have 
> been marketing hype so the inexpensive CL lenses would not decrease sales of 
> the more expensive M lenses. Perhaps some CL lenses really don't focus 
> accurately with some M bodies, but I have yet to see it. This issue is a 
> matter of hot dispute, depending a lot upon how much you trust father Leitz. 
> The Voigtlander 50/2 Heliar is the only collapsible 50 I know of that can be 
> safely collapsed into the CL.
> 
> The whole article is available on CameraQuest.
> 
> I remember reading about the time the CL and CLE first came out that 
> Leica-badge lenses were not compatible, but the Minolta lenses were.


I agree with David....take some time to consider these issues with a review of 
Steve Gandy's Cameraquest web site info, that I believe will truly pay off...



Steve


> 
> best, David Scollard
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:32 AM
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: Not an R camera - Leica CL
> 
> 
> I can not speak to the issue you raise.....
> 
> Ask the group.... someone will know if there is a real issue or not......
> 
> 
> Frank Filippone
> red735i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Ward
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:29 AM
> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: Not an R camera - Leica CL
> 
> Ola' Frank,
>   don't quote this as 'gospel', I've only got 'net postings as sourcing!,
> but there is some sort of issue regarding the rangefinding cam's and some
> kind of issue calling up frameline sets regarding C lenses. I had wanted
> dearly for it to be as simple as bayoneting the things on, but while the
> mount is compatible, there are 'supposedly' things standing in the way of
> 100% workability on M bodies. The 'impression' I have is that it's an
> operations issue, not fitting issue, and seems to only affect 'some'
> shooting situations. Recall my first sentence in this post! I had tried to
> craft my earlier post's words carefully "but alas it appears it isn't as
> simple as just mounting it to an M8." but ended up being well written at the
> expense of being well said.
> Richard in Michigan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Frank Filippone <red735i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 11:12:44 AM
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: Not an R camera - Leica CL
> 
> Why do you say this?  CL lenses are M mount... and an M8 is an M-Mount.
> What problem have you determined/found/seen in this combination?  The only
> issue I can see is the 6 bit coding... which may be possible with Milich
> milled coding on the lens mounts........
> 
> BTW, the M cameras ( all of them) work fine with the LTM lenses as
> well.....and with the new 6 bit coded LTM to M mount adapters, the M8 issue
> is resolved really easily.....
> 
> 
> Frank Filippone
> red735i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>   I've penciled a Digital M8 in for future acquisition and won't be able to
> afford new M lenses and am looking at used M, used LTM, and new & used CV
> glass to use with it. I looked quite hopefully towards using CL lenses - the
> prices are adorable from an 'M' perspective!, but alas it appears it isn't
> as simple as just mounting it to an M8.
> 
> Richard in Michigan
> 
> 
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