[LRflex] Re: Non Leica, Digital Wanderings, The R10 tha I dream of.

  • From: Philippe Amard <phamard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:01:19 +0200

well Xavier, I could do without a crop factor  ;-) 
work, work, work
(and save)
Phileicangenieux

Bille Xavier F. wrote:

>Eliott, Philippe,
>
>As David has put it the other day and I follow it: one of the edvantage of 
>Digital is that you can crank up the ISO if required or you can change the 
>color temperature.
>
>This only is a real progress.
>
>As per the medium format, the bigger the neg is, the better the print is. 
>And this is true. A full frame CCD is better....
>
>But film will remain for some years, it will be costly as medium format 
>processing is today.
>
>A R10 with a crop factor of 1.3 is welcomed. Because our lenses are among 
>the best corrected ever, we want to use them...
>
>Regards.
>
>---------------------------------
>Xavier F. BILLE
>Maisons-Alfort - France.
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>>From: Philippe Amard <phamard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Reply-To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [LRflex] Re: Non Leica, Digital Wanderings, The R10 tha I dream 
>>of.
>>Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 07:09:22 +0200
>>
>>Ok with you Elliot,
>>but printers and the media now ASK for digital files, that's also why.
>>More, labs progressively give up processing slides and digitalizing
>>them, this is a sorry period we're living.
>>Yours
>>Phileicgenieux
>>
>>Dr. Puritz wrote:
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>>>Xavier:
>>>
>>>Thanks very much for posting the interesting digital photographs.  I 
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>>believe
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>>>that some of us feel that a wide range of so called "point and shoot"
>>>cameras will make very acceptable images if such images are to be viewed 
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>>on
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>>>a computer screen.  Such cameras now come with image stabilization, more
>>>sophisticated algorithms, and lenses that cover amazing focal lengths.
>>>Indeed, it may not be until larger prints are made that one will be able 
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>>to
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>>>discern the meaningful differences in the quality of images made with
>>>superior  lenses and cameras with higher megapixel capability. Moreover,
>>>IMHO, one of the reasons that digital photography is doing as well as it 
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>>is,
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>>>is that images are taken and simply viewed on monitors and sent over the
>>>internet.  If one has no need to make larger prints or enlargements I 
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>>wonder
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>>>if additional money need be spent for  higher end cameras and lenses.  I 
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>>am
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>>>asking a question not making a dogmatic statement.
>>>
>>>Allow me to also pose another related question:  For viewing images on
>>>computer monitors or sending to others over the internet to also be 
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>>viewed
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>>>on monitors, is there a reason to use our expensive and superior Leica 
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>>gear,
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>>>then scan the tranny or negative, and then do manipulation in PS, Corel,
>>>etc. or will the results with the camera that Xavier is using do the 
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>>trick
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>>>with identical editing?  Indeed, let's go a step further:  Is there a 
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>>reason
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>>>to use Medium Format if the aim is to view images on ones computer?
>>>Furthermore, will the M8 possibly add anything worth the price for simply
>>>uploading images to the computer for viewing, etc.?
>>>
>>>Elliot
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>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Bille Xavier F." <hot_billexf@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 4:21 PM
>>>Subject: [LRflex] Non Leica, Digital Wanderings, The R10 tha I dream of.
>>>
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>>>>Hello To all,
>>>>
>>>>In these days of Photokina, I went to an old Castle, Vaux le Vicomte,
>>>>known
>>>>for a very famous scandal (at the time of Louis XIV...) involving the
>>>>landlord of the property, Nicolas Fouquet.
>>>>
>>>>Last Sunday, some dancers and comedians animated the castle, let me
>>>>introduce the Roi Soleil
>>>>
>>>>http://xavierf.b.free.fr/Temp/Roi_Soleil.jpg
>>>>
>>>>If you take the time to peep, you will probably say: wow, that's Leica
>>>>35mm
>>>>of hiZ R7...
>>>>
>>>>Wrong guess, Olympus Camedia C300, 3 MPix, check the EXIF, paid a 50
>>>>Pouloutes on Ebay...
>>>>
>>>>Of course, there is a little polish from.... Corel Paintshop pro, 3
>>>>clicks,
>>>>all automatic...
>>>>
>>>>Here is another one:
>>>>http://xavierf.b.free.fr/Temp/Buffet.jpg
>>>>
>>>>Surprising, eh?
>>>>
>>>>---> it brings me to the main subject of this post: I just happen to
>>>>stumble
>>>>on this point and shoot camera which is the ideal replacement for the
>>>>aging
>>>>olympus:
>>>>http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/canon/powershot_a710-review/index.shtml
>>>>
>>>>Of course it is not a Leica but it seems to do a god job AFAIC. A nice
>>>>complement to my R7 and its lenses.
>>>>
>>>>---> Given the tremendous possibilities of this little Point and shoot,
>>>>given to see what a simple old digital camera can do, I believe there is 
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>>a
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>>>>market, potentially great, for a body that would have the same function 
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>>as
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>>>>the Leica M8 but adapted to the R series.
>>>>
>>>>The only thing would be the view finder. Well, a EVF would probably do
>>>>(although a nice Optical would do better). But a  well designed body,
>>>>simple, noisless at 1600 ISO, is probably a winner. Even if it needs ROM
>>>>lenses to be amended to give the information for the processing unit.
>>>>
>>>>I told you, these are digital wanderings, I take the chance to post them
>>>>as
>>>>the Moderator (David Young) is at Photokina, probably our best 
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>>Ambassador
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>>>>for the new R10....
>>>>
>>>>Regards.
>>>>
>>>>---------------------------------
>>>>Xavier F. BILLE
>>>>Maisons-Alfort - France.
>>>>
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