Hi David, I didn't intend any harm when referring to Rose (wink). Thanks for viewing and appreciating. If you have any advice about shooting flowers better with my obsolete gear, I'm willing to hear it, as your help is precious to all of us and to me in particular Weather today was awfull and light so poor I didn't think it was worth getting out to look for storklings - saw some last night on my way to Alsace though. Phileicangenieux ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/