At 07:54 PM 10/08/2010, you wrote: >I've got a Russian KMZ (Soviet) made f:8 500mm MTO >Maksutov-Cassegrain lens I thought I would put in front of my R4 >just for kicks. Yea, yea, I know about bokeh donuts and all that - >this is for fun, not for serious. I've got a M39 to Leica R >adaptor coming in from China as I write this. This 1950's circa MTO >is threaded for M39. I'm not sure I'll get infinity focus - but, oh >well, it's my only telephoto till I can afford something nice and Leitz. > >So... Here is my goofy question. As the lens does not have f stops, >I assume I use the camera in (m) manual mode and match up the speed >with... f:8 - right? The lens comes with a neutral density filter I >could use in place of smaller stops if needed. Anybody ever done this before? > >Rob Hi Rob! I bought an MTO back in 1997, to use to photograph the sun, during the 1998 solar eclipse. The normally low contrast of the any catadioptric (mirror) lens was not a problem in this very high-contrast situation. The images looked pretty good, and I have 11x14" prints on my downstairs wall. My example was acceptably sharp but rather short on detail (low resolution). This last spring, I purchased a Reflex Nikkor 500/8 which had been modified to fit Leica R. It is noticeably sharper than the MTO, but not what I'd call "a stunner". Again, lower contrast (though not as low as the MTO) but with digital, this is easily fixed when processing the RAW images. The fine detail (resolution) is better than the MTO I had, but still wanting, compared to Leica (and most) prime lenses. The "donuts" can be a problem, but need not be, if you choose your lighting and angles carefully. Three examples are here: http://www.furnfeather.net/Temps/Warbler.html http://www.furnfeather.net/Temps/Warbler2.html http://www.furnfeather.net/Temps/Squirrel.html You should be able to use the lens in "A" mode, for no matter what aperture the camera thinks it's using, it will set the shutters speed according to the amount of light it "sees" coming in. I used my MTO in "A" mode, successfully, with my R3 and R5 and the Reflex Nikkor in "A" mode with my Oly E3. You might even find that you can get infinity focus with the M39 mount.... as all mirror lenses will focus beyond infinity. This is to allow for thermal expansion, which affects them more seriously than normal lenses. So, at least at "normal" temperatures, it *may* work! Give it a try! As for your ND filter question... yes, they're intended to be used instead of smaller stops... but I've never known an MTO user to need them... The f8 aperture is more like f9 or f10, with the central disc which holds the secondary mirror blocking the view. Over exposure, with all but the fastest films is not likely. These are not lenses for serious work, but they have a LOT of reach and the cost is low. No doubt about it, they're fun toys! Enjoy! And show us your results, will you? Cheers! ------------- David Young - Photographer Logan Lake, BC, Canada Wildlife & Sports: www.furnfeather.net Personal pages: www.main.furnfeather.net A micro-lender through KIVA.org. ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/