Several years ago, Rei had shown an image taken with the Nocti that had the swirling background of trees and grass around his kids(?). It is by far the best example of nausea creating bokeh I have ever seen.... Ask him for the image.... Frank Filippone Red735i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx searching for images that shake you, move you, or make you nauseous... ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/