Just get it crisper Peter :-)
Could also look ( look) sharper if you increased sharpness after downsizing for
the web as already said on another Oly list :-)
Nice place to visit in any case.
Thanks for sharing
Amities
Philippe
Le 6 oct. 2017 à 10:03, Peter Klein <boulanger.croissant@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
Godfrey, Aram and David: I see you folks are getting much
Photoshop/Lightroom training out of my photo. :-) So how about showing the
results? I use Capture One, so your numbers won't translate, but the
principles are worth a try on a rainy day.
Frankly, the best way to improve that picture would have been to take it
several hours earlier, or several hours later, when the sun was at a lower
angle. But that wasn't when I was there. I did quite a bit of digital
dodging and burning on the B&W to get the tones I wanted. I noticed the lack
of detail/contrast on the building face, but whenever I tried to fix it, I
ended up with tones I didn't like. Then there is the problem getting
contrast out of reddish adobe with yellow straw mixed in, and similarly
reddish soil. Especially when the B&W picture has been red-filtered to get
the sky the way I did. Some masking and contrast or black/white point
gymnastics might very well help.
Interesting discussion, thanks for playing!
--Peter
Have to say, I used the term "boosting the contrast" rather loosely.
Decreasing
the gamma does indeed raise the contrast, though.
I nipped a PNG of each of the photos off the web image on my display and
dragged them into LR. Applying a graduated filter to the bottom half of both
photos with parameters Contrast +100, Clarity +90, dragged Shadow values
down a
ways while boosting highlight values just a little gave a bit more snap and
sparkle to both photos. I painted in a little extra exposure just in the
door
region too. No blow outs and both have a nice "looks like I think it was"
kind
of feel to my eye. Of course
(Of course, my display is calibrated too. The question is whether your
notions
of what is pleasing and mine have anything to do with one another… :-)
G
—
The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it.
On Oct 2, 2017, at 2:29 PM, David Young <dsy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Godfrey, Aram:
I've tried Godfrey's suggestion of boosting the contrast. In the B&W
version, increasing the contrast causes the are in front of the door to blow
out. But decreasing the Gamma, a wee bit, seems to improve things.
In the colour version, again, boosting contrast causes problems - on my
calibrated monitor, it causes the colour of the building to change. But,
increasing the black level, slightly, darkens the sky for a more dramatic
look, and livens up the image without other artifacts.
Aram, you might want to look at this idea.
David.
It's a nice shot.
Looking at it critically, however, in both B&W and color the foreground
needs a bit of a boost in contrast to make it come alive. The tonal
separation is lacking giving a slightly dull appearance, at least on my
display.
G
Peter Klein offered:
Here's a view of a Pueblo house with the mountains behind. I liked this
one in both B&W and color, so I made it both ways.
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/24844563@N04/37167441980/in/dateposted-public/>
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/24844563@N04/37424515271/in/dateposted-public/>
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