Godfrey, Aram and David: I see you folks are getting much
Photoshop/Lightroom training out of my photo. :-) So how about showing
the results? I use Capture One, so your numbers won't translate, but
the principles are worth a try on a rainy day.
Frankly, the best way to improve that picture would have been to take it
several hours earlier, or several hours later, when the sun was at a
lower angle. But that wasn't when I was there. I did quite a bit of
digital dodging and burning on the B&W to get the tones I wanted. I
noticed the lack of detail/contrast on the building face, but whenever I
tried to fix it, I ended up with tones I didn't like. Then there is the
problem getting contrast out of reddish adobe with yellow straw mixed
in, and similarly reddish soil. Especially when the B&W picture has been
red-filtered to get the sky the way I did. Some masking and contrast or
black/white point gymnastics might very well help.
Interesting discussion, thanks for playing!
--Peter
> Have to say, I used the term "boosting the contrast" rather loosely.
Decreasing
> the gamma does indeed raise the contrast, though.
>
> I nipped a PNG of each of the photos off the web image on my display and
> dragged them into LR. Applying a graduated filter to the bottom half
of both
> photos with parameters Contrast +100, Clarity +90, dragged Shadow
values down a
> ways while boosting highlight values just a little gave a bit more
snap and
> sparkle to both photos. I painted in a little extra exposure just in
the door
> region too. No blow outs and both have a nice "looks like I think it
was" kind
> of feel to my eye. Of course
>
> (Of course, my display is calibrated too. The question is whether
your notions
> of what is pleasing and mine have anything to do with one another… :-)
>
> G
> —
> The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it.
>
> On Oct 2, 2017, at 2:29 PM, David Young <dsy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Godfrey, Aram:
>
> I've tried Godfrey's suggestion of boosting the contrast. In the B&W
> version, increasing the contrast causes the are in front of the door
to blow
> out. But decreasing the Gamma, a wee bit, seems to improve things.
>
> In the colour version, again, boosting contrast causes problems - on my
> calibrated monitor, it causes the colour of the building to change.
But,
> increasing the black level, slightly, darkens the sky for a more
dramatic
> look, and livens up the image without other artifacts.
>
> Aram, you might want to look at this idea.
>
> David.
>
>
> It's a nice shot.
>
>
> Looking at it critically, however, in both B&W and color the foreground
> needs a bit of a boost in contrast to make it come alive. The tonal
> separation is lacking giving a slightly dull appearance, at least on my
> display.
>
>
> G
>
>
> Peter Klein offered:
>
> Here's a view of a Pueblo house with the mountains behind. I liked this
> one in both B&W and color, so I made it both ways.
>
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>
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