[LRflex] Re: Houston - Irescolor - All
- From: Steve Barbour <kididdoc@xxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:49:10 -0700
On Oct 28, 2008, at 3:19 AM, AMARD philippe wrote:
All,
Here are just a few remarks and thoughts, calling for reactions, but
certainly not meant to get into polemics, at all.
I've read Linda's posts, and viewed her photos.
I've also answered her on and off list, and read all your answers.
If I may be honest, what I feel is that we are all uneasy with her
contributions, and certainly with her questions.
I do hope you won't resent my post, Linda.
As a preamble, let's mark that Linda is the only one photographer on
this list who posts portraits that are deliberately posed in the old
photographic tradition. And so doing she pushes most of us, who in
the Leica tradition prefer unstaged and caught live "snaps", to
(re?)consider what the "art" or "trade" is about.
This in my opinion is a great contribution to the list. And she does
put the stakes very high with her expectations. Can we deliver?
Maybe I am wrong but I feel this is where we also collectively run
the risk of leading Linda in a direction she initially did not
intend to take - sort of formatting to conform a majority.
Mind you, I'm part of that process, knowingly, yet unwillingly.
I find a lot of potential in her endeavour, and she's lucky enough
to have models. At least, I wish I was that lucky. Yet, I am at a
loss, everyone has their limitations, when it comes to really
helping her develop in HER direction. And my message is more a call
for help than anything else.
but let's stop here and ask again...what are Linda's portraits for?
are they for us? are they very fine passport photos? are they to be
framed portraits for the family piano?
are they for a book? are they for a job? what kind of job?
and on and on....
only Linda can answer...once she finds the answer, at least part of a
solution will begin to emerge...
in the meantime, one book I strongly recomend is An Inner Silence...
Portraits by HCB...
thanks Linda for without a doubt, raising these important questions in
everyone's mind, Steve
Should she have a look at ancient photographs?
Should she stop using PS?
Should she select more? And along which criteria?
These questions have been answered, in part. Yet, have we
reconsidered our standards when answering?
More interestingly, are these the answers she needs to expand and
improve on a personal plane?
I mean, Linda is seeking friendly advice OK, and I feel somewhat
frustrated that I can't provide her with more valuable insight than
"this works for me", or "that doesn't".
Why? mainly for fear of her losing her personal potential, and
photographic soul.
This may all seem confused and confusing. Sorry if it is so.
Thanks for your kind attention and answers.
Over to you fellow listers.
Philippe, the happy Sunday snapper in rainy Strasbourg.
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:30:42 +0100
wrote:
> Dear Chris,
>
> Do these catch the soul better?
>
> http://fotos.designing.be/Iresagedcolor/
>
> Is it about laughing...?
>
> Yours sincerely
>
> Linda
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chris L
> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:00 PM
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: Irescolor
>
>
> Hello Linda,
>
> I am new to this list and don't know the accepted
>conventions and behaviour here:
>
>
> I hope that if I criticise your pictures, it won’t be
>taken amiss or, worse, that I’ll not be considered a
>pariah! But you are asking for feedback…
>
> The pictures of the young woman: I find them
>technically very well done, well lit and so on....
>
> But what is the purpose of those pictures? They
>generally don't catch the character or the soul of the
>subject. If they are meant to be glamorous, in several
>she has expressions which don't show her at her best.
>
> My main observation/criticism is, what are you trying
>to say with these photos?
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
>
>
> Chris
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