Hi Doug, I would have to say that A) The Pancolar is a Legendary Lens and B) Earned that Status based on Merit. Please note that it took a Summicron Fifty for it to get tossed under the bus, so to speak. I personally have seen a Kodaachrome taken with a Pancolar fifty projected to the size of a Billboard that postively dripped with stunning optical goodness. I sought out a Pancolar to use on my EOS 620 film camera years ago for a reason. :-) Part of the reason for the lenses' mystique is the low price point they were sold at. One could pay a pauper's price for one and it would reasonably compete with lenses that cost princely sums of money. The Pancolar design does have notable challenges shooting wide open, it's bokeh easily becomes unpleasant, and their build quality, while 'German' and all metal it still remains distinctly East German. My example arrived on a Praktica Body from europe via eBay and the lens worked for exactly a day. Had to have it rebuilt by my local guy for twice what I paid for it. Worth it, but disappointing. Conversely, I've grown to love shooting in low light, with wide apertures, as I play up the relationships between in focus and out. The Pancolar just isn't a lens meant for that kind of imagemaking, at least not anywhere as well as my Summicron or my Elmarit perform in the same situations. Stopped down, a Pancolar plays with the Big Boys but it's not the lens for me. I've loved my, swore by mine, but as I changed as a photographer it just wasn't performing the way I needed it to. Richard ________________________________ Be Nice To Your Children! They Will Be Choosing Your Nursing Home :-) ________________________________ ________________________________ From: Douglas Sharp <douglas.sharp@xxxxxx> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wed, February 17, 2010 5:47:14 PM Subject: [LRflex] Re: Good Photographers -&- Bad Lenses Richard, gorgeous winter shots - strangely enough, the Pancolor by Zeiss Jena is considered by some to be "legendary". In fact this South African site is over the moon about it: http://www.wholesaledigital.co.za/czj50f1.8.htm Cheers Douglas ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/