[LRflex] Re: Fascination gone R10 too?
- From: a aa <classwp@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 11:32:51 -0400
Yep, I am inclined to agree with you on the future of the R.
2009/5/23 Douglas Sharp <douglas.sharp@xxxxxx>:
> Mehrdad,
>
> if there is anything at leica that could possibly finance the further
> development of the S-System, it's going to be more ridiculous loking and
> impractical but moneymaking efforts like the white M8.
>
> Leica themselves write in their marketing hype that this will be the
> "eyecatcher of the coming summer", no mention of precision, or for that
> matter even photography.
>
> This is an all out assault on target groups without photographic affinity
> that are looking for exclusive lifestyle accessories that no one else can
> afford.
>
> The camera is so ridiculous that it won't even be popular as a collector's
> item.
>
> The way I see it, the R10 is as DEAD as the proverbial Dodo when seen in the
> context of the current global financial situation. Perhaps Leica will start
> thinking more about it if and when the market begins to recover.
>
> General market recovery forecasts for German industry reckon with a market
> upturn for general industry beginning some time in 2012 - at the earliest.
>
> I think the R10 is currently probably the least of Leica's problems when
> regarding the current state of the German economy, and particularly in the
> segment where Leica resides.
>
> All the high hopes of Franke & Heidecke (the historically named successors
> to Rollei Fototechnik) also came to an end last month when they filed for
> insolvency in Braunschweig - whether the professional side of Rollei will
> return like a Phoenix from the ashes, is yet to be seen.
>
> As Leica is a similarly small-scale, specialised, high-tech and very
> expensive precision engineering and optical company with what appears to be
> very limited marketing and business acumen, the same could potentially be on
> the cards for them too.
>
> The R10 has very probably been kicked out of the realm of dreams and is now
> sitting quietly in some corner of fairyland waiting for the prince's kiss to
> awaken it - unfortunately, I think the Austriuan prince with his bags of
> gold is now out looking for a less desolate kingdom.
>
> Cheers
> Douglas
>
> mehrdad wrote:
>>
>> i actually think this time the R system will protector of the S system.
>> another words r keeps s going. the medium format camera market is small and
>> crowed and capital expenditure is down by almost everybody. so a more "mass
>> market" camera will bring in the money while the S will be the new flag
>> ship. most technology from S will be directly applied to the new R (just
>> keep the mount the same)
>>
>> i thought about getting the s system, after my cost calculations there was
>> the space issue needed for the new system which would have been scares since
>> i have to trade in my house
>>
>> On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 7:14 AM, Doug Herr <wildlightphoto@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:wildlightphoto@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>> Philippe AMARD wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >when we asked
>> >>the Navydirectly we got the same blank response.
>> >> Nothing. Ships came and left anyway.
>> >> >Had the navyopened a booth saying they would answer questions
>> brought by their ' clients ' ?
>> >If any.
>>
>> Yes. That was the purpose of the meeting.
>>
>> Doug Herr
>> Birdman of Sacramento
>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
>>
>>
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