I watched it from the other end(in Milwaukee) and trust me everyone was on the tarmac to watch. Had to laugh when one of the bomb dogs had to do a walk around and through. The thing was loaned with only ballast. As far as the SL I still have my two and if I could figure a way to put in a digital sensor I'd do it in a heartbeat. ------ >-- Regards YXAndy --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Charlie Falke <chfalke@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: Charlie Falke <chfalke@xxxxxxx> Subject: [LRflex] Re: FF M9 - 18mpixels - September? To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 8:52 PM Andy Wagner wrote: Charlie I agree nothing is impossible with a smart engineer and some money--add a demand factor and it will happen--the big question is when and how much $25,000 for a camera is just a wee bit over my budget(SWMBO would wring my neck and then start removing vital parts) By the way we just witnessed the A380 take off in under 2000 ft of runway. Didn't realize the damn thing was a STOL craft!! ------ >-- Regards YXAndy Andy, It is if you leave out all the pax and most of the fuel. :-) I was supporting the engine controls on the PW powered A318, the smallest Airbus, a few years ago, and they were going to airshows as an act, the largest and smallest, so I got to see both airplanes demo many times at Farnborough and ILA at Berlin Schoenefeld. I got to Oshkosh for the last few days so I saw the Friday demo and departure for Milwaukee. Everything in an airliner demo makes the airplane look as good as possible, they fly very light, the A318 had maybe an hour of fuel total on board. They gain extra speed before climbing and trade that energy for height to climb faster, and turns are made after that speed has been lost, so it can turn tighter. At Oshkosh they announced during one of these slow turns that it was doing only 104 knots. At normal weights this or any large airliner would be on its wheels. Normal landing speed is perhaps 125. The landing wasn't as bad as it looks, although Claude admitted it was heavier than he planned. There was only one turnoff at Oshkosh that was heavy enough to support even a light A380, and it was only 5000 feet or so from the end of the runway. You would put it down firmly as well under the circumstances. :-) 25K USD is way too much for me too. I will confess within the last year I bought a second SL. The only thing I really hate about film in the end is fighting with the TSA to stop them from ruining it with X-rays. -- Charlie Falke _____ /\ | __/\__/------/__) |(____\/_________/ "One test result is worth | |/ `o one thousand expert opinions" - Wernher Von Braun 0 N4003M "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/