[LRflex] Re: Exposure Issue with Leica R7?
- From: Walter Kramer <walter.kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:19:31 +1000
Thanks to all,
I think the consensus is that it is an exposure problem at time of
taking the shot and perhaps the scanner trying to compensate. Looks
like I have to learn more about how to expose correctly and not rely too
heavily on auto modes while understanding the onboard metering
limitations .. I am glad it is not the camera itself. So much to learn
and so little time. Nice to receive swift and considered responses.
One more question and I know this is perhaps not the right forum however
I wonder if anyone has experience with Leica M cameras. I have used
fixed lens rangefinders before and enjoy the difference. I am seriously
considering expanding my Leica gear to include an M camera and thinking
about the M5. Any caveats ... opinions appreciated. I know this is a
controversial M however there are reasons I am attracted to this
particular Leica.
Thanks again ... time to rethink how I shoot with the R7.
On Tue, 2009-09-22 at 14:36 +0200, Philippe Amard wrote:
>
> Walter Kramer wrote:
>
> >Thanks Philippe,
> >
> >Details,
> >
> >These are B&W negatives developed and scanned at my local Fuji lab using
> >I believe one of their frontier machines.
> >
> >The + - expo compensation is as you described on the R7 but I never use
> >it because it is quite awkward to manipulate. Easier to use manual mode
> >and compensate via shutter speed.
> >
> >
> just like me ;-)
>
> >Lens is fully closed down but I must admit that at times I have failed
> >to reset after changing shooting modes, eg, from aperture priority back
> >to program ... maybe that's the issue.
> >
> >
> happened to me too, we could start a club ...
>
> >Here are a couple sequential frames shooting the same scene. I'm pretty
> >sure both were taken in program mode with the lens stopped down to min
> >aperture ... but I can't be certain.
> >
> >OK
> >http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2565/3943719295_e52e0e3722_b.jpg
> >
> >Not OK
> >http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3426/3943718289_43382808fd_b.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> Technically not the same for the cell - one is vertical and right -
> probably because it takes the ground as a reference - the sky area is
> small in proportion of the ground/grass
> the other horizontal - light is measured with a gradation for the upper
> part of the frame (usually sky in horizontal mode) yet it takes here a
> much larger proportion of the measurement area I guess, hence slightly
> too dark , which may have affected the scanner readings too
>
> using the + / - thing or going manual could then solve the pb - but
> this is just a guess
>
> ph
>
>
>
> >On Tue, 2009-09-22 at 11:54 +0200, Philippe Amard wrote:
> >
> >
> >>ouch!
> >>is this a print or a scanned neg?
> >>
> >>two leds is no issue so far as I know - you get an intermediate aperture
> >>value I guess (no exif to prove it though) - watch that you're not out
> >>of the aperture/speed range, that's all.
> >>
> >>backlight - I never had an R7 but as early as the R3, you can alter the
> >>exposure setting and tell the cam it is backlit for instance; the + -
> >>switch should be on the left hand side where you adjust the ASA/ISO (and
> >>somewhat tricky to change when your eye is against the window BTW, later
> >>improved in the R8/9) - it is there on the R4, its location shouldn't
> >>have changed as it is the same family
> >>
> >>Also, it depends on the cell setting - centered, 'full screen', etc if
> >>availble in PRG mode on the R7 (isn't on the R4).
> >>
> >>I suppose we need more details.
> >>
> >>Hope this helps for a start though
> >>
> >>Philippe
> >>
> >>An after-thought, when shooting in programme mode, is your lense fully
> >>closed down?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Walter Kramer wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hello,
> >>>
> >>>I am getting some unpleasant exposure results with my R7 and I don't
> >>>know if it is my inexperience or something to do with the camera. I use
> >>>P mode often and maybe it's just not suitable where there is strong back
> >>>light.
> >>>
> >>>The other possibility is that the leds on the right are displaying two
> >>>aperture modes when I take the shot, eg, f2.8 and f4.0 lit up. The
> >>>manual instructs to change the shutter speed dial until only one
> >>>aperture reading displays, I have largely ignored this. Anyway I get
> >>>two or three shots like this in a role and the only pattern I can see is
> >>>the scene has bright lighting in the background.
> >>>
> >>>Here is an example. Maybe someone has experienced this, I'm hoping it
> >>>is operator error.
> >>>
> >>>http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2579/3944281840_8ff3f820bb_b.jpg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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