[LRflex] Re: DM-R Adventure
- From: Douglas Herr <telyt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:14:13 -0700
Mine (a used demo unit) has been working well, aside from known
firmware 1.1 bugs. 1.2 fixes most of the bugs but adds a few new ones
of its own. I'll wait for 1.3. Being in the software business I'm not
surprised by bugs, the wonder is that there aren't more. C and N have
had their share of bugs too, even on their multi-kilobuck products.
Perfection is an invention of marketing people, to be planted in our
heads by whatever means possible.
Doug Herr
Birdman of Sacramento
http://www.wildlightphoto.com
On Apr 18, 2006, at 5:03 PM, Dr. Puritz wrote:
> HI Jerry: I had no idea that David and Alan were, in effect, doing
> Beta
> testing. Nevertheless, the DMR is released at $6,000 now. Has the
> current
> DMR been changed in any way from the ones that our two esteemed
> members were
> using? Are we to assume that earlier models of the DMR, i.e., those
> that
> were selling originally at $5,000, were also "Beta units"? If so,
> were the
> original units sold with such a designation?
>
> Elliot
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Lehrer" <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 7:01 PM
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: DM-R Adventure
>
>
>> Elliot,
>>
>> One must remember they bought those new DMRs as Beta testers. That
>> is why they got them so cheaply for 5 kilobucks each. When Leica
>> fully
>> perfects them and they are bug free, they will cost a lot more than
>> $5000.
>>
>> I would wager that Leica that Leica could not afford to internally
>> test
>> and
>> develop a complex product on their own. Unlike airplanes and autos,
>> they
>> can have the first users uncover the problems. And the first users are
>> falling
>>
>> over themselves to get in line to buy one at "list" price.
>>
>> Y'know, come to think of it, even commercial aircraft develop problems
>> in the first years of operation. My 50 years of aerospace
>> engineering has
>> shown me that. Camera testing is a lot less hazardous!
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> "Dr. Puritz" wrote:
>>
>>> David and Alan: You both appear to be remarkably patient. One might
>>> have
>>> expected an outburst of four letter words after spending 5,000 bucks
>>> and
>>> having such problems.
>>>
>>> Alan: Sorry to know of your problems. How bothersome to travel to a
>>> special location, spend the time and money to set up for a special
>>> shoot,
>>> and have the camera fail. I am a very big supporter of Leica
>>> Camera, but
>>> such problems with a "new unit" must make us wonder who is in charge
>>> in
>>> Solms. To say that one is surprised would be understating the
>>> situation.
>>>
>>> Are you contemplating returning the DMR?
>>>
>>> Elliot
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "David Young" <telyt@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:46 PM
>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: DM-R Adventure
>>>
>>>> Alan Siegel moaned:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The camera was mounted on a tripod and after 5 or 6 shots nothing
>>>>> happened when I pushed the shutter button, except I noticed the EV
>>>>> reading on the back would show EV 0.0 after I pushed the shutter
>>>>> button. I had plenty of battery power left, but I tried the
>>>>> following steps to get it working again.
>>>>>
>>>>> I turned it off and on several times,I recharged the battery, and
>>>>> replaced the SD card with another, nothing I did made any
>>>>> difference.
>>>>
>>>> <<snip>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> My concern is will it happen again, and if so, how often.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good Mornin' Alan!
>>>>
>>>> I cannot say that I've had your situation, but it is definitely a
>>>> contact problem. I say this because on several occasions, during
>>>> "show and tell", I've popped the back off to show how you can still
>>>> put film in the R8. When I put it back together, it fails to work
>>>> about 2/3rds of the time! Doing as you did, just turning it off,
>>>> reseating the back and (often) winding the film lever, has always
>>>> got
>>>> it going again. I've never had it fail, once working, until I did
>>>> 'show and tell" again, or was removing the back to clean the sensor
>>>> (like you, with a blower, no brush). Then, one or two 're-seats"
>>>> seems to do the trick.
>>>>
>>>> I'm going to experiment with some contact preservative I have (about
>>>> $75 for 1 fl. oz.) and will report to the list as to whether it
>>>> makes
>>>> any difference or not.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to hear of your problem, but inquiring minds want to
>>>> know... who IS your dealer? He sounds like a gem!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> David Young,
>>>> Logan Lake, CANADA
>>>>
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