[LRflex] Re: DM-R Adventure
- From: Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:38:38 -0700
Elliot,
I am certain that every production batch of DMRs incorporate improvements
and "fixes" that incrementally improve the product.
Of course the first units were NOT sold with any Beta designation. No one
likes to be thought of as a guinea pig or coal mine canary. The VERY first
ones were loaned to European photographers of name and note.
Jerry
"Dr. Puritz" wrote:
> HI Jerry: I had no idea that David and Alan were, in effect, doing Beta
> testing. Nevertheless, the DMR is released at $6,000 now. Has the current
> DMR been changed in any way from the ones that our two esteemed members were
> using? Are we to assume that earlier models of the DMR, i.e., those that
> were selling originally at $5,000, were also "Beta units"? If so, were the
> original units sold with such a designation?
>
> Elliot
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Lehrer" <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 7:01 PM
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: DM-R Adventure
>
> > Elliot,
> >
> > One must remember they bought those new DMRs as Beta testers. That
> > is why they got them so cheaply for 5 kilobucks each. When Leica fully
> > perfects them and they are bug free, they will cost a lot more than $5000.
> >
> > I would wager that Leica that Leica could not afford to internally test
> > and
> > develop a complex product on their own. Unlike airplanes and autos, they
> > can have the first users uncover the problems. And the first users are
> > falling
> >
> > over themselves to get in line to buy one at "list" price.
> >
> > Y'know, come to think of it, even commercial aircraft develop problems
> > in the first years of operation. My 50 years of aerospace engineering has
> > shown me that. Camera testing is a lot less hazardous!
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > "Dr. Puritz" wrote:
> >
> >> David and Alan: You both appear to be remarkably patient. One might
> >> have
> >> expected an outburst of four letter words after spending 5,000 bucks and
> >> having such problems.
> >>
> >> Alan: Sorry to know of your problems. How bothersome to travel to a
> >> special location, spend the time and money to set up for a special shoot,
> >> and have the camera fail. I am a very big supporter of Leica Camera, but
> >> such problems with a "new unit" must make us wonder who is in charge in
> >> Solms. To say that one is surprised would be understating the situation.
> >>
> >> Are you contemplating returning the DMR?
> >>
> >> Elliot
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "David Young" <telyt@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:46 PM
> >> Subject: [LRflex] Re: DM-R Adventure
> >>
> >> > Alan Siegel moaned:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>The camera was mounted on a tripod and after 5 or 6 shots nothing
> >> >>happened when I pushed the shutter button, except I noticed the EV
> >> >>reading on the back would show EV 0.0 after I pushed the shutter
> >> >>button. I had plenty of battery power left, but I tried the
> >> >>following steps to get it working again.
> >> >>
> >> >>I turned it off and on several times,I recharged the battery, and
> >> >>replaced the SD card with another, nothing I did made any difference.
> >> >
> >> > <<snip>>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> My concern is will it happen again, and if so, how often.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Good Mornin' Alan!
> >> >
> >> > I cannot say that I've had your situation, but it is definitely a
> >> > contact problem. I say this because on several occasions, during
> >> > "show and tell", I've popped the back off to show how you can still
> >> > put film in the R8. When I put it back together, it fails to work
> >> > about 2/3rds of the time! Doing as you did, just turning it off,
> >> > reseating the back and (often) winding the film lever, has always got
> >> > it going again. I've never had it fail, once working, until I did
> >> > 'show and tell" again, or was removing the back to clean the sensor
> >> > (like you, with a blower, no brush). Then, one or two 're-seats"
> >> > seems to do the trick.
> >> >
> >> > I'm going to experiment with some contact preservative I have (about
> >> > $75 for 1 fl. oz.) and will report to the list as to whether it makes
> >> > any difference or not.
> >> >
> >> > Sorry to hear of your problem, but inquiring minds want to
> >> > know... who IS your dealer? He sounds like a gem!
> >> >
> >> > Cheers!
> >> >
> >> > ---
> >> >
> >> > David Young,
> >> > Logan Lake, CANADA
> >> >
> >> > Personal Web-site at:
> >> > http://www3.telus.net/~telyt
> >> >
> >> > Limited Edition Prints at:
> >> > http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/prints.htm
> >> >
> >> > Leica Reflex Forum web-page:
> >> > http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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