[LRflex] Re: Better images by Douglas Sharp!
- From: Philippe Amard <phamard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:08:09 +0100
Hi Xavier,
digital viewfinder - I'd hate this - I do NOT want to look at pixels
when I look through the eye piece - I want to look at people, at
landscapes, animals, etc. - is this not why we all bought Rs? the
clearer, the larger, the sharper mirror you could get?
However, I quite agree with you Xavier on the idea of a "cheap" basic
Digital R. (went to a Canon shop last thursday for a close look at my
Xmas Rebel; felt frustrated indeed; see above)
Not OK at all with you on a digital viewfinder though - or didn't I get
what you meant?
Your snap of the old camera was fine all the same - even though a wizard
managed to improve it a bit further.
But in the old days, photographers took rolls, and the people in the lab
made the best of photos of them (or ruined them sometimes too :-( );
seems the world goes on as it would, doesn't it?
Have a nice evening.
Phileican't stand digital viewfinders ( ;-) ) but would enjoy a D back
for any R from 3 up.
Bille Xavier F. wrote:
>Douglas,
>
>Of course I don't mind. This post and the subsequents were in fact quite
>bluffing.
>
>I dod not want to present a hi res pix and lower it down a little but during
>the process, the file lost a little.
>
>In fact, the blue cast, I'm not able to see it, I'm not good enough I guess.
>The difference you posted shows it and it captivated me.
>
>I just tried the PTLens algorithm. It is easy to use. but unfortunately this
>"old thing" is not with the profiles. In fact, they support most of the
>Lumix by Panasonic.
>
>I have a set of tools to improve an image, it's sometime difficult to
>understand. And having a old Compaquosaurus laptop does not help out I
>guess.
>
>All together, you put in image a very brillant demonstration. Thanks.
>
>As for the Bridge against the Reflexes, it seems it is my old demon,
>prefering integrated solutions. Swapping lens on a camera with a digital eye
>viewfinder? It looks like a Digital M Leica! :)
>
>I'll try to do some close up with a Summicron 90. Not sure the colors are
>going to be Ok after scanning.
>
>
>---------------------------------
>Xavier F. BILLE
>Maisons-Alfort - France.
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>>From: Douglas Sharp <douglas.sharp@xxxxxx>
>>Reply-To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [LRflex] Bridges better than Reflexes? I don't think so
>>Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:46:01 +0100
>>
>>Xavier,
>>I must answer your question with a clear NO - however you can get damned
>>close if you do a little post processing.
>>I hope you don't mind, I've posted your image and my correction at:
>>
>>http://gallery.leica-users.org/New-Old-Pictures/PB130001b your original
>>http://gallery.leica-users.org/New-Old-Pictures/PB130001b_edited_2
>>
>>
>>Nice old camera, some time ago you mentioned DxO as a processing option,
>>the alternative is PTlens (freeware)
>>I ran your image through PTlens to correct the chromatic aberration (the
>>bright blue edges on the adjustment ring, particularly strong above the
>>500 shutter speed) and subsequently ran the whole thing through Neat
>>Image to reduce noise and sharpen in the luminance (y) channel (to avoid
>>bright edging).
>>The improvement of the image is very obvious, considerably reduced
>>fringing and the meatl parts look more "metallic" after Neat Image, and
>>the whole job only took about 3 minutes.
>>If you would like to try it -
>>1) download and install PTlens - in PS or PS Elements or whichever other
>>Image Processing you use.
>>2) Check chromatic aberration (click in the box, make sure fish-eye,
>>vignetting and distortion are unchecked)
>>BTW, If your camera lens combination is listed you can set the camera
>>and focal length and use distortion correction too
>>4) Zoom into a part of the image where fringing is obvious
>>5) Set slider Blue-Yellow to between +0.0042 and + 0.0047 (I used +0.0044)
>>Click OK and your image is already improved.
>>For noise reduction and sharpening:
>>Neat Image:
>>You can download a free stand-alone version (not a plug-in) which works
>>very well -in fact it works so well I decided to buy the Neat Image Pro
>>version, which also runs as a plug-in.
>>Now the problems start - there are so many sliders and options that you
>>need to practice for a couple of weeks before you find out exactly what
>>they do, and how they affect your image. The effects can be quite
>>spectacular when you get the settings right!
>>
>>Bille Xavier F. wrote:
>>
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>>
>>>Helle Gentlemen.
>>>
>>>I just bought a "old" digital camera, P&S olympus. In fact, I believe it
>>>
>>>
>>is
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>>>enough for my needs so far.
>>>
>>>Obviously it is not matching the Panasonic with a Leica 12x lens but
>>>
>>>
>>enough
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>>>to do most of the daily internet photos I need.
>>>
>>>Here is an example, using the right white balance on a cloudy day, macro:
>>>
>>>http://xavierf.b.free.fr/Temp/PB130001b.jpg
>>>
>>>It is a "good enough" camera: subject is the Agfa Isolette II shutter (do
>>>you see the spots on the coating?)
>>>
>>>Sorry for being off topic here but I truly believe in the "Bridge" type
>>>
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>>of
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>>>cameras rather than the Reflexes. So far, I've read in the local
>>>
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>>magazines
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>>>ant i's been confirmed by the local photog that a lens can be a real dog
>>>
>>>
>>on
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>>>a digicam while on another it becomes good.
>>>
>>>All depends on the sensor and the post processing.
>>>
>>>So, I hope the DMR has enough software to use the Rom contact and decide
>>>which profile is best.
>>>
>>>Alas, the DMR is to heavy for my flat purse...
>>>---------------------------------
>>>Xavier F. BILLE
>>>Maisons-Alfort - France.
>>>
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