Thanks Bob :-) I sometimes feel like a dreamer too. Yours Phileicangemix. Bob Shaw wrote: >Phillippe: > >Wow! The Beast! > >Straight out of Spielberg/Industrial Light and Magic. > >Great shot! > >Bob in Seattle > > > >On Jan 10, 2007, at 9:30, Philippe Amard wrote: > >Hi Neil, >here's ><http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Flowers/=20 >Minotaure_w_001.jpg.html> >another example of what an old 2x extender can do with another zoom >lense - vignetting is also present, but not that bad. > >more to be found on the same site - with 35 x 2 Ang=E9nieux and = >MinoLeitz >70-210 > >Yours >Phileicangemix >. > >David Young wrote: > > > >>Neil wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>I've been considering purchasing a 2x extender for a while, but =20 >>>hesitate >>>for a couple of reasons. >>> >>>1) The only lens that I'd use it with is my 180/2.8 non-APO. Of what >>>benefit would the APO 2x be in this case? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Presumably the APO converter will prevent some of the degradation >>that is inevitable with any extender/converter. >> >>That being said, I use an old SL vintage 2x converter with nearly all >>my wildlife shots and find it to be absolutely excellent. So, if I >>were you, I'd look for a good, used, non-APO converter for use with >>your non APO lenses. :-) >> >> >> >> >> >>>2) Disregarding the extra baggage, would I be better off with a = >>> >>> >longer > > >>>prime lens than this combination? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Probably, but not by a whole bunch... and at a lot greater expense. >> >>For example... shot with the 80~200/f4 Vario and 2x converter (hand >>held, from a moving boat)... >> >>http://www.telyt.50megs.com/Squares/05.12.2877_filtered.jpg >> >>with the 400 Telyt and 2x converter on a monopod.... >> >>http://www.telyt.50megs.com/nab_Moma-Coot.htm >> >>With non-APO lenses, the only drawback I've found with the non-APO >>converter is that with the 400/6.8 Telyt, it vignettes badly. >> >>http://www.telyt.50megs.com/nab_Blue%20Heron.htm >> >>The APO converter does not vignette with this lens. However, in me >>experience, the non-APO version does not vignette with shorter focal >>length/faster lenses. >> >> >> >> >> >>>On a similar theme, I occasionally see a Leica 500/8 mirror lens at >>>auction. Has anyone here used one of these? I know that some folks >>>dislike the "donut" OOF highlights that are a side-effect of mirror >>>lenses, but beyond that, how do they compare against other options? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Donut's aside, I used the 500/8 MTO (Russian) only for the 1998 solar >>eclipse. Although the photos were sharp and clear, it's hard to tell >>what fine detail an image of the sun *should* have! The few test >>shots I took before that trip indicated that it was pretty good for >>freedom from distortion (shooting brick walls) although the fine >>detail was not "up to snuff" compared with other glass... even other >>non-Leica glass. >> >>Hope this helps. >> >>Cheers! >>--- >> >>David Young, >>Logan Lake, CANADA >> >>Wildlife Photographs: http://www.telyt.com/ >>Personal Web-pages: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt >> >> >> >> >>------ >>Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: >> http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm >>Archives are at: >> //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ >> >> >> >> >> > > >------ >Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: > http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm >Archives are at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ > >------ >Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: > http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm >Archives are at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ > > > ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/