carmack has commented that the 8500 should hardware wise be faster than a gforce4 fro doom3 Unforntuanlty its let down by drivers. well i say 134 quid for the almost fastest card is pretty dam good! And drivers are getting better all the time.... kerr -----Original Message----- From: list@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:list@xxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jamie Elliott Sent: 28 May 2002 15:51 To: list@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lanse] Re: Oh Cool [HOMER] Spherical, Dual-Paraboloid and Cubic environment mapping ?.. Arrrgghhhhhhhhhhh -----Original Message----- From: list@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:list@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of kerr michie Sent: 28 May 2002 15:46 To: list@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lanse] Re: Oh Cool oh oh oh !!!!! | | | | | V Hercules Radeon 8500 LE 64MB DDR (AGP) - OEM (GX-007-HE) This is the same chipset as the much acclaimed ATI Radeon 8500 above, but clocked at the lower speed of 250MHz core and 500MHz DDR-SDRAM. For those looking for a bargain this is certainly worth looking at - often capable of being overclocked to the speed of the full ATI Retail product at a much lower price. Check this review at X-bit Labs for a full comparitive review of the ATI Radeon 8500 and 8500LE Featuring : » TRUFORM? » SMARTSHADER? » Dual Display Support » Emboss, Dot Product 3 and Environment bump mapping » Spherical, Dual-Paraboloid and Cubic environment mapping » Fog effects, texture lighting, video textures, reflections, shadows, spotlights, LOD biasing and texture morphing » 250MHz core and 500MHz DDR-SDRAM and much more besides. Price: £114.20 (£134.19 Including VAT at 17.5%) -----Original Message----- From: list@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:list@xxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jamie Elliott Sent: 28 May 2002 15:38 To: list@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lanse] Oh Cool Importance: High I recently lost the use of my bank card, through no fault of my own of course. I was shot with a paintball (well many actually) and although I managed to avoid the bruise, it meant sacrificing the card as body armour. Shattered it into 3 bits, impressive. Anyway, Kerr & Duncan will vouch for this, all the time I have had an account with the Halifax they have denied me any kind of switch / solo / cheque book card. I ordered another across the counter the other day, and its just turned up. And they sent me a SOLO enabled card!, oh the joy of internet ordering is at last my own. It?s a cool thing when you?ve never had the option. The card is warm in my pocket, itching for it?s first use, be still my pretty the time is nigh.