Just like to say that people really should use the forums a lot more - there is no pressure of real time chat, just log on when you have a spare few minutes in the day :) They can be found either by clicking the link on the http://www.lanse.co.uk homepage, or by going straight to http://www.lanse.co.uk/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi It would be good to get a lot of participation in these as well as this great new e-mail list thing! Regards, Mat Thomas (Phiebs)