Hi Kerr >laggy servers. Not entirely sure how appropriately that relates to my point that most multiplayer gaming services need to start charging for their services or face the serious threat of going bust - as even a well funded operator can run continue to poorly-performing servers. However it is kind of illustrative of how a struggling company with no money to invest in trained staff and decent server hardware can end up producing a dire service. Let us hope that the paid-for service from Barrysworld performs better than the the service from this UK2 company you mention. Chris - Chris Green __________________________ BlackBerry Wireless Email! www.blackberry.net