[LandXML] Re: Any datum stated in LandXML standard ?

  • From: Raymond Wilson <Raymond.Wilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'landxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <landxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:48:13 +1300

This is a related issue I thought I'd bring up (sic) for some clarification.
I was not a party to the discussions that resulted in the LandXML v1.0
standard and am curious as to the motivations for allowing the LandXML
format to have defined linear/angular units.

In my experience file formats that have this ability tend to be more
difficult to work with than if the format mandated (for instance), SI units.
This would mean linear units were always meters and angular units may be in
radians expressed clockwise from the north azimuth. The effect of this is to
reduce the complexity of the reader/writer by removing (among other things)
the need to perform an arbitrary unit translation rather than a single
defined one.

Anyway, I would be interested if anyone here could enlighten me to the
reasons LandXML adopted user defined units instead of SI units.

Cheers,

Raymond.

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From: nathan.crews@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nathan.crews@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 12:20 AM
To: bleblanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: landxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [LandXML] Re: Any datum stated in LandXML standard ?




Yes, this is the right place to discuss any public issues regarding LandXML.

I will make sure the LandXML-1.0Docs.zip file is fixed. 

The Units element details all units of measure contained in the data
structure, which includes linear units and angular units. The
CoordinateSystem element describes the coordinate system and datum used.

Nathan Crews
www.landxml.org

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From: bleblanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bleblanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:35 PM
To: landxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [LandXML] Any datum stated in LandXML standard ?


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Hi, 

First, I don't know if it's the right place to ask my question.  If not, I
apologize and would like to know where to do so.  I tried to find what I'm
looking for in the LandXML-1.0Docs.zip document that is on your web site.
Unfortunately, the file is corrupted, Winzip displays the message Bad CRC
ca3d7493  I downloaded it three times to ensure that corruption didn't
occurred during data transmission.  Anyway, he it is...

Here at Ministry of Transports of Quebec (Canada), we use Bentley's Inroads
civil design software.  Through Inroads and all software involved in our
road project workflow, we apply a combined scale factor (obtained by the
multiplication of grid scale factor and mean sea level reduction factor) on
each input lengths to express field data on a projection plan (something
equivalent to the State Plane systems used in several US states).  The goal
is that all reports produced by Inroads show grid level related coordinates
and field level related dimensions (stations, intervals, radii, lengths,
etc.).

Recently, for reporting purposes, we decided to export some data (surfaces
and alignments) in LandXML format.  We also plan to use the same standard to
upload road designs in our electronic fieldbooks, for field deployment
purposes.

We'd like to know if somewhere in LandXML standard, there is any statement
about the reference datum to use for any dimensions contained in LandXML
data files.  It's quite obvious that coordinates should be expressed on the
projection plan, but what about all linear dimensions like curves radii and
alignments stations?  For us, these should be ground (field) referenced.  Is
this topic addressed by the LandXML standard?

Hope my question is clear enough.  If not, feel free to contact me for
additional information. 

Best regards, 
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