I collected roughly 2 mil packets with kismac and running the wep crack (the "both" option) it hangs and sometimes crashes my whole machine. I'm trying the same .kismac file on the new .03c version. Has anyone else had similar results? Also what exactly does the .kismac file save? (The .kismac I've been trying to run the wep crack on is only ~10 mb. Last question, if I had a computer that is allowed on a wlan (the wep code has been stored on the machine) and another computer not allowed on the network. I'm wondering if I save a pcap file from the machine allowed on the wlan, can i load that into kismac and then use the wep crack to figure out the wep code? john _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus