It has always worked for me, often without even turning it off. On occasion it has taken a couple of tries. When I run into situations where the airport hardware is disabled, or whatever is happening, I've just opened up the terminal, cd'd to /system/library/extensions/ and typin in a sudo kextunload and then a sudo kextload for the appleairport2.kext driver, and it's back to normal. Jesse >>On Feb 14, 2006, at 10:07 PM, Robin L Darroch wrote: >> >>>Hi Seth, >>> >>>I think you've probably overestimated the reliability of passive >>>mode airport extreme support, based on your sample of one. :) I >>>rather doubt that you're the only one on the list who has tried to >>>use KisMAC/airport-extreme-passive by first turning off the airport >>>using the menu bar icon. I know that was the second thing I tried >>>(after trying it *without* turning it off there, and having to >>>reboot my computer to get the airport back online). Unfortunately, >>>for many of us even turning the airport off first is not enough for >>>KisMAC to be successful at passive scanning with Airport Extreme. >>>I think perhaps other system processes are laying claim to the >>>Airport and not relinquish that claim even when the airport is >>>turned off... therefore, when KisMAC tries to load its passive mode >>>driver, it clashes with one of those processes and dies, >>>subsequently rendering the airport inoperative until the next >>>reboot. This is why most people are successful following a safe >>>mode reboot, but not after booting their computers normally even >>>accompanied by switching the airport off prior to firing up KisMAC. >>> >>>I guess you can count yourself lucky that you're not running >>>anything that causes a conflict! >>> >>>Cheers, >>>Robin