[kismac] Re: How do you get this %%$$ing program to work!!!????
- From: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: kismac@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:50:30 +0200
At 11:05 AM -0400 2004/04/30, GDevice@xxxxxxx wrote:
Anyway... As far as KisMAC goes, I can only rate this program as 3 0r 4
on a scale of 10. What it is capable of doing is very nice and I like the
interface. But with such a VERY limited scope of card support, I can't
give it a very high rating.
Limited card support?!? What on earth are you talking about?
Prism2 is by far the most common 802.11b chipset in use anywhere in
the world, and is well supported by KisMac. The Lucent/Orinoco and
Cisco cards are well supported by KisMac and common in certain
sectors of the industry where they're willing to pay more to get
quality devices -- note that the Apple Airport card is based on the
The 802.11a/g devices from Atheros and Broadcom have less
support, because the vendors do not allow information about these
devices to be disseminated. The only reason anyone other than
Microsoft and other commercial OSes have any support for them at all
is because people like Mick have done a lot of reverse-engineering
work to figure out how these cards work (without any real
documentation available), and then written software to support them.
Atheros has helped a little by recently making a driver available
that runs on top of their Hardware Access Layer, but it's been
difficult porting this driver around. Broadcom doesn't even go that
The Atmel and ADMtek chipsets are far less common, and you just
happened to buy both of them before you found out what the real
Plus the fact that this is suppose to be a
MAC program, but support for the Apple card is limited. It seems the
developers would have gotten the AirPort cards working FIRST before
moving on to other Chip sets.
Excuse me?!? Mick has the best support for the Apple Airport
card in the business. There is little he can do for the Airport
Extreme card, because that's based on the Broadcom chipset for which
the manufacturer is being a real ass and not releasing any
information to non-commercial sources, and even then you have to sign
an extremely restrictive NDA. These things are not well supported
anywhere in any Open Source project or Operating system, for that
Compare KisMac to the other available WiFi scanning utilities for
Macintosh, as well as for other platforms. I don't think you'll find
support for as broad an array of cards on any other program or
platform, and certainly not support for such a broad array of
To do the same with anything else would require a half-dozen
different programs, few of which could run at the same time, and
might not all run on the same OS.
Compare to NetStumbler. Compare to Kismet. Compare to anything
else you like. I challenge you to find a more complete program with
support for a wider array of cards anywhere else on any OS you like.
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@xxxxxxxxx>
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.
SAGE member since 1995. See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info.
Other related posts: