[kismac] Re: Darwin Update in 10.2.6
- From: "N. Karras" <nkarras@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <kismac@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 23:46:41 -0400
As long as there is a way to force it. I hate it when "precautionary =
measures" are taken so far as to be absolute (at least as far as that =
specific program is concerned)...
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From: "Galen" <blueandwhiteg3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <kismac@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 7:38 PM
Subject: [kismac] Re: Darwin Update in 10.2.6
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> Yes, I am able to build and exchange my own and read the note about=20
> 10.2.5 and all, but I'm considering other people. I know quite a few=20
> people that have, despite the scary messages about the kernel swap=20
> being "suicidal" among other things, do it anyway, mess up their=20
> system, re-install OS X and repeat 2-3x. I'm a computer consultant=20
> doing lots of Mac stuff (as well as web design) and see all these=20
> users. I know they're being stupid and it's at their own risk and all, =
> but it wouldn't be hard to refuse to exchange the kernel unless the=20
> kernel versions match and require the option key or something else to=20
> be pressed in order to force it to exchange regardless of the kernel=20
> version. Just anything so the user can't possibly not read a message=20
> that explains (in brief) how dangerous switching kernel versions is.=20
> This message could either be in the form of a readme or a dialog box. =
I=20
> am assuming that you are trying to develop a mature program that is=20
> relatively usable for the masses and I think this would be very=20
> helpful. And it really wouldn't take much code or effort, either.
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> Galen
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> On Wednesday, May 21, 2003, at 02:15 PM, N. Karras wrote:
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> >
> > Who suggested going back a version?
> >
> > You are not understanding. The KisMAC program tells what version =
the =3D
> > modified kernel is designed for. If you do not know without =
checking =3D
> > every time, what version of Mac OS you are running, maybe you=20
> > shouldn't =3D
> > be using a utility such as this. And if you knowingly exchange the =
=3D
> > kernel for a previous version, that's your problem. Maybe you =
should =3D
> > consider exchanging your own.
> >
> >
> > NPK
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=3D20
> > From: "Galen" <blueandwhiteg3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <kismac@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 1:16 AM
> > Subject: [kismac] Re: Darwin Update in 10.2.6
> >
> >
> >> =3D20
> >> Well, if I'm not mistaken, Apple updates Darwin for a reason. A lot =
> >> of =3D
> >
> >> people started having kernel panic issues with Darwin 6.5 (USB=3D20
> >> related), many of which were supposed to have been solved with =
the=3D20
> >> latest system update (and Darwin 6.6), and going back a version on=20
> >> the =3D
> >
> >> kernel might not always be a good idea, even if it generally works.
> >> =3D20
> >> Would you consider a checking mechanism for KisMAC to prevent=3D20
> >> installing the wrong kernel (causing problems - I know multiple=20
> >> people =3D
> >
> >> who've whacked out their OS X install by doing this)? And it=20
> >> wouldn't=3D20
> >> hurt if you kept the kernel build up to date with the latest=20
> >> Darwin... =3D
> >
> >> custom building my kernel isn't nearly as easy as clicking=20
> >> "exchange=3D20
> >> kernel" in KisMAC.
> >> =3D20
> >> Galen
> >> =3D20
> >> =3D20
> >> On Tuesday, May 20, 2003, at 04:44 AM, Michael Rossberg wrote:
> >> =3D20
> >>> hey,
> >>>
> >>>> Last time I upgraded from 10.2.4 to 10.2.5 and tried the swap =3D
> > kernel
> >>>> function of KisMAC, I got bitten hard by a bug - they updated =3D
> > Darwin
> >>>> and KisMAC didn't know about it. I had to re-install OS X. Darwin =
=3D
> > went
> >>>> from 6.3 to 6.5. Now, with the release of 10.2.6, Darwin has been
> >>>> updated to 6.6. I'd rather not test this on my system, but =
does=3D20
> >>>> anybody
> >>>> know if KisMAC has been updated with the latest kernel? Also, =
have =3D
> > you
> >>>> ever thought about having KisMAC check the kernel version =
*before*
> >>>> swapping it to avoid installing an older or newer version and =3D
> > creating
> >>>> all kinds of issues?
> >>>
> >>> i did not think about it, because usually this is working. the =
jump
> >>> from .5 to .6 causes no problems. the same with .3 and .4, but =
they
> >>> must have changed some critical in .5, which caused the problems. =
i
> >>> added a warning, but i do not want to tell the people what they =
=3D
> > shall
> >>> do.... because sometimes it makes sense to exchange a newer kernel
> >>>
> >>> mick
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis --
> >>> -- Type: application/octet-stream
> >>> -- File: PGP.sig
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
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