[kag] Re: lighthouse cache, and others

  • From: "Mark Harper" <greywynd@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: kag@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 01:05:34 -0400

I have to admit, I seemed to have a 'weird' feeling when doing cemetery
caches, until a few days ago. Happened to be caching with my wife, and the
one cache turned out (unknown to us) to be a cemetery cache. When I
mentioned about it seeming strange to me, she commented that cemeteries
aren't really for the dead, they are for the living. It gives us a  place to
visit, to remember, to honour, and to enjoy the life of those around us
(that have left the land of the living), but also our own lives.  This
particular site was high on a hill, overlooking a former railway (now a rail
trail), and also overlooking a river that is active with recreational
boating and fishing. A beautiful spot, that I would never have enjoyed
except for the cache in the cemetery.

I will admit, if there are muggles around, a cemetery takes a different
approach for me, because I want to respect their privacy if they desire to
have it. Ironically, I was riding shotgun with another cacher when we did
my first cemetery cache, and it happened to be in the same cemetery as my
grandmother. Not having been there since her death a few years ago, it gave
me a chance to reflect, and I could see her shaking her head about this
'confounded gadget' I had in my hand, with a smile on her face. I could see
her actually enjoying caching, as long as someone else ran the gps!!!

I have a different outlook on these caches now, though I will always have a
different approach to finding them and accesing them.

Greywynd (Mark)

On 5/12/07, Lib Mendonça <lsmendonca@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I have to disagree with Graeme about cemetery caches. In this day and age
seem to have developed a phobia about churchyards. In the past families
would visit their family grave sites and have picnic lunches. 'Tourists'
would visit a city cemetery to seek out the famous and deceased. These are
places where local history comes alive, where the dead still speak to us.

When's the last time you visited a cemetery?

My first 'Churchyard' caches were Consanguinity by Yasdnil Nicky & Sam
(GCEF42),  and Cathedral on the Marsh by The Eye (GCG35C). These small
villages have cemeteries that are located right in the center of village
life, not distant secretive places that are visited only during
The Eye even invited you to find his father's final resting spot,

"This cache is placed in memory of my Father Ronald Piper who was laid to
rest in December 1993. Find Dad at:-
N 52.19.286
E 1.35.679"

- and pay your respects.

Because of 'cemetery' caches I know where Sir Robert Borden is buried,
by Sir Sanford Fleming  (Grave of a Famous Person by Murfster
(GC539D)),  I've
visited the grave of Lester B. Pearson (Target #45 of Dash for Cache! by
Joefrog (GC597C).I know where the first Canadian pilot killed in action is
buried (The Ghosts of Sandy Hill by Nature Geek and NaGeMo (GCWDP1)), and
enjoyed a long walk with Scarlett03 and GreyElf in Ottawa's Beechwood
Cemetery hunting Graveyard Shift by Arono (adopted by model12) (GCJ5JZ).
seen the Billings' Family plot, hidden in the center of Ottawa (It points
True North! by Roswell.fr (GCNAT5)), and I've discovered a crusader's
dating to the 1200's by a Saxon church that dates from 845 AD (Greensted
Ramble (Essex) by Chris n Maria (GC9A52)).

There are those who think the only proper behavior in a cemetery is to
black and look mournful. But I've found cemeteries to be a wonderful
for local history, with headstones that speak from the past of terrible
personal tragedy (Geogranny's Old River Road Heritage Byway - END by
Geogranny (GCKEYG)), and of individual accomplishments (William Dunnet's
headstone for Bluelamb's Farewell to Dedham by bluelamb03 (GCK49H)). One
the things I've always enjoyed about geocaching is the way a good cache
can take you to interesting and beautiful places that you would never have
found on your own. Cemeteries are all too often an overlooked feature of
modern world, and our dear departed deserve more than a once a year visit
immediate family.

My $0.02..



----- Original Message -----
From: "Graeme Watson" <Graeme.Watson@xxxxxx>
To: <kag@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 8:30 PM
Subject: [kag] Re: lighthouse cache, and others

> Lloyd I'm a little shocked that you would even suggest a
cemetery.  There
> has been a lot of bad press generated in the states because of cemetery
> hidden caches. No matter what your own option on subject, it is the
> feelings of the people who have relatives buried that is of prime
> consideration.  Cemeteries are places of reverence and reflection and
> not appropriate for a cache hide.  There is also the small fact that
> cemeteries are not public land.  Most likely an academic point as I
> that the cache would even be approved.
> On a personal note I have 7 relatives buried in Cataraqui, so this is
> then a philosophical discussion for me.
> -Graeme
> Lloyd Baker wrote:
>> The Lighthouse is a great cache, the trick is retrieving it without
>> spotted.
>> Now, for a spot to hide a cache look at the City of Kingston's website
>> for their Parks Map.  I have used this to find spots to hide a cache.
>> I track all caches I have hit on Microsoft Streets & Trips and can send
>> picture of Kingston showing where caches are, using this I see some
>> holes with city parks all over that have no caches in them.
>> On another note, what about hiding a cache in Cataraqui Cemetery, lots
>> history in there and I am sure a cache could be hidden in a quiet area.
>> There is a Prime Minister buried there and a few other notables.
>> Binrat
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <hamburgerking@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <kag@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 9:02 AM
>> Subject: [kag] lighthouse cache, and others
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm hoping for some feedback on the caches I hid.
>>> Most recently, I hid Lighthouse, down at confederation park.
>>> My goal was to hide a cache right downtown, where the object was less
>>> about a hard find, and more about being sneaky and undetected.  I
>>> a big cache too, cause my kids don't like the little ones...they want
>>> loot! When I saw the blue structure, I knew it would work.  But it is
>>> similar to Portsmouth Olympic Harbour, that I knew it would also be
>>> easy.
>>> I tried to get it posted on a sat morning, for a better FTF race, but
>>> submitted it too early.  It was reviewed and posted in just 2 hours,
>>> whereas my prev caches have taken a few days.
>>> Any suggestions for more downtown, urban caches?
>>> I think the big sandy caches are too easy to find.  But I didn't want
>>> be responsible for any environmental disturbances, so had limited
>>> prospects.  The one at the beach is too close to the trailhead.  When
>>> was searching for a spot, a snowstorm broke out and I had limited
>>> options. I'll be back there to look for a better spot, further from
>>> trailhead.
>>> I would appreciate feedback on my other caches too...don't worry, I
>>> a thick skin, so give it to me straight.
>>> BTW, there's an army surplus store in London Ont that sells ammo boxes
>>> for $6.50cdn.
>>> Dave Hamburger
>>> Lighthouse
>>> Wavey
>>> POH
>>> Family tree
>>> Big sandy beach
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