I phoned up River Rat Marina, I think the info they gave me can be applied to any marina we rent from. A Small Boat operators certificate is not required; there is a quiz beforehand which fulfills the requirement. Price does not include fuel, or taxes. It is off season so booking in advance is not a problem. As a security the Marina will put a $1,000.00 bill against the credit card we use, torn up if we do not steal the boat. -Remote Sensor > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ Kingston Area Geocachers mailing list //www.freelists.org/webpage/kag