[juneau-lug] Re: test
- From: "James Zuelow" <James_Zuelow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <juneau-lug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:03:51 -0800
Chris -
Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Edubuntu is of course Debian repackaged, with a more
volatile package set. i.e. they track the latest and greatest desktop
packages, and have a 6 month release cycle. This makes Ubuntu an
excellent choice for desktops and especially laptops, where the newest
versions of X can help. Ubuntu is very similar to Debian Testing.
Chuck -
OK, you asked for it.
Debian stable is, well, stable. New packages are very tightly
controlled, and every effort is made to avoid introducing new
dependencies in the stable distribution. Therefore there are very few
surprises. Security and bugfixes are fast and painless to install.
Debian stable does tend to run 'behind the times' as far as version
numbers go. i.e. stable is still using KDE 3.3. However any security
fixes that are required are backported by the package maintainer. So
while a security fix might require upgrading Foo 1.0 to Foo 1.1, on
Debian you'll see a new Foo 1.0-1 appear with the fix. (unless
upgrading to Foo 1.1 does not affect any other packages, in which case
the upgrade will appear.) Stable is great for servers, or for stodgy
old people like me who don't mind running a quiet desktop. If you
update your machine once a week, you'll track Debian stable right
through version changes, which occur every few years or so instead of on
a six month schedule like Ubuntu. So a 3.0 to 3.1 upgrade just kind of
happens.
If you don't like running stable, you can run Debian Testing. Testing
is really very stable when you get down to it. I ran a Testing desktop
for several years and never had a problem with it. However stability
isn't guaranteed - don't run production servers on it. Testing is the
next stable release - so while stable is 3.1 now, Testing is
unofficially 3.2.
Then there are Sid and Experimental. These are for people who are
really doing testing work and living on the edge. Debian Sid is usually
more up to date than rapid cycle OS's like Ubuntu. Here be dragons, but
again some people keep a Debian Sid desktop and have no issues.
But the real reason to run Debian is that it is free:=20
http://www.debian.org/social_contract=20
http://www.debian.org/intro/free
You won't find a crippled Xine package (SuSE) that refuses to play DVDs
because the company doesn't want you to. Even if you're trying to play
your OWN DVDs that you made yourself - sorry, SuSE's Xine won't play
them because the MPAA might sue somebody. You won't find software that
you shouldn't redistribute, like YaST.
I haven't tried Fedora in a while (FC2 was my last install), but there
were a lot of commercialization aspects and licensed software added to
that as well . (Which is why CentOS is around)
Don't get me wrong - commericalization on Linux is NOT BAD. It is a
necessary part of using Linux in a business environment, and the money
that goes into commercialized Linux distributions eventually comes back
to all of us. But for home use, I just don't see it.
James Zuelow
Network Specialist
CBJ MIS (907)586-0236
Registered Linux User No. 186591
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> Go with a real Distro ;)=3D0A=3D
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> Use Ubuntu Dapper, I have it on my laptop, and I love it.=3D0A=3D=20
> Note, it is still in beta right now, so there are some=20
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> O.K., James, sell me Debian. What are the advantages...=3D0A=3D=20
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