[juneau-lug] Re: new iMac

  • From: East Wind <eastwind@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: juneau-lug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 05:28:36 -0900

Parallels can be installed both ways. Using bootcamp or the
"normal way", without boot camp. I had big problems when
I trried to use bootcamp and wound up going with the standard
installation method. BC is a thing of the past anyways. However, if you
want to go that route be prepared to wipe/reinstall multiple times in
case you have problems. It may go painless for you but be prepared
for it not to be that way, It's hard to say what you'd run into without
knowing what hardware we're talking about, how much ram, etc.
There's prolly a better place to ask that facet because I've only installed
parallels once,

I sure love Parallels - it just works. I chose XP. It'll work with
vista however I'm glad I chose XP because Vista is just too
darned annoying. It's always jumping up in my face wanting human
permission to do things. I can't seem to get vista to shut up enuff to
provide a sensible user experience. Why pay $ for that kind of
user experience.


> version of Windows (Vista or XP).  Can't grub replace Boot Camp?
>   
Perhaps it can, never tried it....be prepared to putz with it for hours 
though.

> However I'd guess that Windows as a Parallel's vm would be stuck in that 
> form (you could not install it as a stand alone partition), true or 
> not?
The docs which are freely DL'able will say for sure.
I didn't want to slice up my drive and deal with any
vagueness in the situation brought on by poor documentation.

> Although a pre-installed partition probably wouldn't convert to a 
> vm either.  I suggested that he choose XP over Vista. 
> Any advice as to his best choices (Boot Camp vs Parallels) (XP vs Vista)
Any tricks needed to create a linux partition on an iMac?

If you go with an "out of the box" thing, Parallels and XP will be working
in about 15 minutes. Get that gratification first. Have the fun first.
Then wipe it and do a partition and play around as much as you like.
After all, you can always return the machine to out of box condition
very quickly.

I've never had any luck installing Linux on a mac. Every single time 
there's always
been something that happens that would require researching an obscure 
error message.
Ususally video related. Considering the plethora of free or nearly free 
wintel hardware
around I just never bother with Linux on a mac. You might have a 
different experience though.

> How does Parallels compare to VMWare?  Where are the best deals for buying a 
> Mac?
>   
Never tried VM ware in a side by side situation. Parallels was only 
$79.00 and so I wouldn't
bother with VM ware - Parallels is written by mac people, for mac 
people, known inside and out
by mac people. I tend to go where the situation is native or as close to 
that as I can get.

Whenever I attempt to call tech support and they find out that I'm doing 
something in a virtual way
they without fail start backing away and disclaiming the situation and 
are very quick to blame the
emulation/virtual as being the cause - most of the time it's not. It 
rarely is, MOF.
Still, I tend to do things natively and stay away if I can. In the case 
of parallels - I went with it because
in addition to the bunch of windows boxes I have around I wanted XP in a 
portable fashion.
It's alot easier to not lug 2 laptops around. However, I still won't do 
anything mission critical
in a virtual fashion without access to the same situation on real wintel 
hardware.
Parallels is extremely sweet - but if I have any problems I'll always 
install said problem on
a standard wintel mobo and find out 4sure.

As for mac pricing - I can't comment - haven't priced any macs.
I always find that if the cost of the machine is $20.00 less then it seems
I get screwed for $20.00 more on shipping. And if they say free shipping
then that doesn't hold when they find out it's Alaska. As a result I don't
bother looking for the absolute rock bottom prices anymore 'cause they'll
make it up somewhere else anyways. Go where you find your best perceived 
deal.


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