[juneau-lug] Re: Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft
- From: deadcats <deadcats@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: juneau-lug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 19:33:19 -0800
The whole debate between Ubuntu and Debian, IMHO, is based on the fact
Canonical/Ubuntu's developers didn't shove the code-changes into Debian
developers faces so that they'd be forced to see someone changed and, maybe,
made it better. Like, somehow, it was Ubuntu that...
You know what? It was a beautiful day out, and I just got back from a great
week in Fairbanks! :)
Nothing to see here; move along.
regards...and have a nice Sunday =)
-dc
On 10/28/06, James Zuelow <e5z8652@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Saturday 28 October 2006 18:38, deadcats wrote:
> > You know, this debate (not to mention the whole GNU/GPL3 stuff) is more
> > than I care to address. I just want my home machine to run the
> > latest-n-greatest with the least amount of hassle. If folks call me a
> user,
> > so what--that be me! :)
>
> I think that is 99% of Linux users. That is one of the reasons that
> Debian
> lost mindshare in the past - all that "free" politics and stuff meant you
> had
> to work to get things done. Now we have Ubuntu, etc.
>
> > Reading the link, I realize that in geek-speak "Ubuntu" means "those
> that
> > can't run Debian." But what is Debian? If it means a set of packages
> that,
> > installed together, give the user no sense of identity, then I agree.
> Seems
> > rather bland to me...
>
> Oh, I don't know about that. Debian users tend to have a very strong sense
> of
> identity as Debian users -- which is where you're probably getting the
> anti-Ubuntu backlash. (A lot of Debian users think that Ubuntu is getting
> a
> free ride.)
>
> There is a lot of angst on Planet Debian (I have my screensaver set
> to "Apple ][" and it defaults to pulling the rss feed from Planet Debian).
> Debian Developers who are also Ubuntu Developers are torn with the whole
> FireFox/Mozilla debate and how it morphed into a Debian/Ubuntu fight. And
> something happened at a Linux conference in France last month that got
> everyone into a tizzy.
>
> Ubuntu is debian-based, but isn't necessarily for less technically adept
> users. It just has a more rapid development cycle so users don't need
> services like debian-backports or run "testing" all the time. And the
> installer and desktop integration are usually better than plain-Jane
> Debian.
> Any Debian user who trashes Ubuntu is probably just jealous of Ubuntu's
> position on distrowatch.
>
> Debian has been going through a LOT of acrimony lately. GPL3 and Mozilla
> trademarks are nothing compared to Dunk-Tank. :) A few established DD's
> quit over that fight.
>
> > http://www.beranger.org/
> >
> > He's great! :)
>
> I've already added a couple of OpenBSD bookmarks from his blog.
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