[juneau-lug] Re: SPAM filtering...

  • From: Myron Davis <myrond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: juneau-lug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 13:45:55 -0800

Hi Kevin!

On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Kevin Miller wrote:

> 
> Further developments:  there is a "mail" user already, and the SuSE config
> uses it.  Same principle, different name.  Found way down in the config
> files (.../sendmail-8.12.7/cf/cf/submit.cf) where to set the user to run as,
> so I'll do that and see what happens.  Hopefully that's the only place it's
> needed.

I personally don't care for sendmail.  I think you would be a lot
happier if you were to use postfix or qmail.  There may also be a lot
of work but my opinion (completely a feeling, and with no hard
evidence at all) is that another system would be better.

> 
> I've *never* seen any program with so many config files, and READMEs.  My
> brain melted days ago.  If this were Windows, I'd be stamping my feet and
> moaning but somehow since it's a self imposed conundrum, I don't have that
> luxury.  If only our users knew what we endured for them!  Ah well, I guess
> the more arcane the system is, the nicer management has to be to me...

If it makes you feel any better even the developers don't really know
the config files of sendmail :).  Sendmail has a lot of features and
sometimes it seems a bit arcane way of doing it.

If you would like too I can give you a short demo of qmail and how
easy it is to manage... maybe I can convert you! :)

-Myron

> 
> ...Kevin
> -------------------
> Kevin Miller 
> CBJ MIS Dept.               Network Systems Administrator, Mail
> Administrator
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>  
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: James Zuelow [mailto:e5z8652@xxxxxxxxxx]
> >Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:44 PM
> >To: juneau-lug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [juneau-lug] Re: SPAM filtering...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Kevin Miller" <Kevin_Miller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <juneau-lug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >> Looked in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow - both had a * in the service
> >> accounts.  Probably easiest to just edit them by hand as the 
> >graphical
> >> utility will start UIDs at 500 & go up from there.
> >
> >Don't hand edit.  Use vipw and vigr.  OK, you still hand edit 
> >when using
> >these tools - just wanted to be sure.  These tools do some 
> >checks to make
> >sure you don't accidentally mangle the files.
> >
> >> Thought about
> >> reassigning "at" to UID 24 and adding smmsp in as 25.  My 
> >inclination is
> >> that won't work, as the file properties point to the UID if 
> >memory serves,
> >> not the name so suddenly all the files "at" used to own 
> >would be owned by
> >> smmsp.  Probably safer to just pick an unused number.
> >>
> >Hmm, maybe not.  Here's my list of SuSE 7.3 files owned by at (I'm home
> >now):
> >
> >/var/spool/atjobs
> >/var/spool/atjobs/.SEQ
> >/var/spool/atspool
> >
> >You could make the changes using vipw and vigr, then quickly 
> >chown the above
> >files.  I did a `find / -uid 25 -gid 25` to generate the list 
> >- yours may be
> >different.  I left off the pid file in /var/run.  But I'll bet 
> >your list
> >isn't much longer that this unless you have a lot of at jobs.
> >
> >I checked for an at user/group on Debian 3.0, RedHat 7.2, and 
> >OpenBSD 3.0 &
> >3.2 - none of them had an at user, much less one with uid 25.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >James
> >
> >
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