[juneau-lug] Re: Remote desktop control
- From: "Jeremy Hansen" <jeremyh@xxxxxxx>
- To: <juneau-lug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 21:04:40 -0900
Yes, you need licenses for Windows NT 4.0/98/95 and other platforms to
connect, but Windows 2000 Professional and Windows XP Professional addition
come with Terminal Services licenses, application licensing is seperate and
so is File and Print Sharing. I think... I am very interested in figuring
this issue out... Otherwise if you are a scam artist you can just trick the
server by changing your hostname (rdesktop -l [hostname] servername I
believe.
- Jeremy
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Zuelow" <e5z8652@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <juneau-lug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 8:19 PM
Subject: [juneau-lug] Re: Remote desktop control
>
> On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 18:52:33 -0900
> "Jeremy Hansen" <jeremyh@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >
> > WindowsXP and Windows 2000 come with Terminal Server CALs. So your
> > only expense is the software and Windows 2000/XP Terminal Server,
> > which could certaintly be less, but my recommendation from there
>
>
> Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!
>
> Client Access Licenses are not equal. Yes, you can purchase CALs with
> Win2k Server. Win2k Server with 5 CAL is $999, Win2k Server with 10
> CAL is $1199:---link may wrap---
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/howtobuy/pricing/default.asp
> ---link may wrap---
>
> HOWEVER. These would not necessarily allow multiple instances of
> Microsoft Office. A CAL allowing you to use terminal services does
> not allow you to use any an all applications on that server.
>
> Win2k Server comes with two "free" CALs for Terminal Server in remote
> management mode only. For TS in application server mode (which is
> what we're talking about) you must have additional licenses. Per
> Microsoft:
>
> "Terminal Services Client Licensing Requirements
>
> In addition to the Windows 2000 server itself, Terminal Services has
> the following client licensing requirements when enabled in
> "Application Server" mode:
>
> A Windows 2000 Server Client Access License (CAL) or BackOffice® 2000
> CAL is required to access the Windows 2000 server. A Windows 2000
> Terminal Services CAL or a license for Windows 2000 Professional is
> required to run Windows-based desktop and applications from a Windows
> 2000 server, regardless of the protocol or software used to interact
> with applications running on the server. As per the Windows 2000
> Server End User License Agreement, "Terminal Services" means:
>
> (i) using the terminal services feature of the Server Software to
> enable Devices to use software residing on the Server, or (ii) using
> other software in conjunction with the Server Software to provide
> similar services.
>
> Appropriate application licenses. Licensing varies by independent
> software vendor (ISV). For instance, Microsoft Office is licensed on a
> per-device basis. This means that each end-device that displays Office
> applications requires a license to be assigned to it."
>
> The way I read it, you have a CAL to use _terminal_services_ if you
> are connecting from a Win2k Pro or WinXP Pro workstation, but you do
> NOT have a license to use Microsoft Office via that same connection.
> This is from:
>
> ---link may wrap---
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/howtobuy/pricing/terminal.asp
> ---link may wrap---
>
> So it is very easy to get in trouble by not paying attention to the
> various license requirements for Win2k Server (and .net server when it
> is officially released). The novice is protected however - when you
> install Terminal Services on a Win2k machine, you are asked if you are
> installing in remote management mode, or application server mode. If
> you choose application server mode, the installer immediately asks you
> to configure your terminal server CALs with the license manager. No
> CALs, the installation stops. We had this problem at UAS when I took
> the Win2k Server class. We did not have anything to show to the
> license manager, so we could not demo terminal services in application
> server mode. (Luckily, you don't have to have a lot of hands on
> experience with Terminal Server to get past the MS Installing &
> Configuring Win2k Server exam.)
>
> Cheers,
>
> James
>
>
>
>
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