Out of all the build systems i've ever seen Qt gets the BAD MOJO award Reasons for getting this prodigious award? -Compiling nonessential items. Check out this dump from my recent compile -=Dump=- Do you accept the terms of either license? Creating qmake. Please wait... make -f Makefile qmake c++ -c -o project.o -DQ_OS_DARWIN -DQ_OS_FREEBSD -I. -Igenerators -Igenerators/unix -Igenerators/win32 -Igenerators/mac -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include/qmake -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include -DQT_NO_TEXTCODEC -DQT_NO_UNICODETABLES -DQT_LITE_COMPONENT -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPRESS -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/mkspecs/darwin-g++ project.cpp c++ -c -o main.o -DQ_OS_DARWIN -DQ_OS_FREEBSD -I. -Igenerators -Igenerators/unix -Igenerators/win32 -Igenerators/mac -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include/qmake -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include -DQT_NO_TEXTCODEC -DQT_NO_UNICODETABLES -DQT_LITE_COMPONENT -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPRESS -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/mkspecs/darwin-g++ main.cpp c++ -c -o makefile.o -DQ_OS_DARWIN -DQ_OS_FREEBSD -I. -Igenerators -Igenerators/unix -Igenerators/win32 -Igenerators/mac -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include/qmake -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include -DQT_NO_TEXTCODEC -DQT_NO_UNICODETABLES -DQT_LITE_COMPONENT -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPRESS -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/mkspecs/darwin-g++ generators/makefile.cpp c++ -c -o unixmake2.o -DQ_OS_DARWIN -DQ_OS_FREEBSD -I. -Igenerators -Igenerators/unix -Igenerators/win32 -Igenerators/mac -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include/qmake -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include -DQT_NO_TEXTCODEC -DQT_NO_UNICODETABLES -DQT_LITE_COMPONENT -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPRESS -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/mkspecs/darwin-g++ generators/unix/unixmake2.cpp c++ -c -o unixmake.o -DQ_OS_DARWIN -DQ_OS_FREEBSD -I. -Igenerators -Igenerators/unix -Igenerators/win32 -Igenerators/mac -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include/qmake -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include -DQT_NO_TEXTCODEC -DQT_NO_UNICODETABLES -DQT_LITE_COMPONENT -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPRESS -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/mkspecs/darwin-g++ generators/unix/unixmake.cpp c++ -c -o borland_bmake.o -DQ_OS_DARWIN -DQ_OS_FREEBSD -I. -Igenerators -Igenerators/unix -Igenerators/win32 -Igenerators/mac -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include/qmake -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include -DQT_NO_TEXTCODEC -DQT_NO_UNICODETABLES -DQT_LITE_COMPONENT -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPRESS -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/mkspecs/darwin-g++ generators/win32/borland_bmake.cpp c++ -c -o msvc_nmake.o -DQ_OS_DARWIN -DQ_OS_FREEBSD -I. -Igenerators -Igenerators/unix -Igenerators/win32 -Igenerators/mac -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include/qmake -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include -DQT_NO_TEXTCODEC -DQT_NO_UNICODETABLES -DQT_LITE_COMPONENT -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPRESS -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/mkspecs/darwin-g++ generators/win32/msvc_nmake.cpp c++ -c -o msvc_dsp.o -DQ_OS_DARWIN -DQ_OS_FREEBSD -I. -Igenerators -Igenerators/unix -Igenerators/win32 -Igenerators/mac -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include/qmake -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include -DQT_NO_TEXTCODEC -DQT_NO_UNICODETABLES -DQT_LITE_COMPONENT -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPRESS -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/mkspecs/darwin-g++ generators/win32/msvc_dsp.cpp c++ -c -o msvc_vcproj.o -DQ_OS_DARWIN -DQ_OS_FREEBSD -I. -Igenerators -Igenerators/unix -Igenerators/win32 -Igenerators/mac -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include/qmake -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include -DQT_NO_TEXTCODEC -DQT_NO_UNICODETABLES -DQT_LITE_COMPONENT -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPRESS -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/mkspecs/darwin-g++ generators/win32/msvc_vcproj.cpp c++ -c -o option.o -DQ_OS_DARWIN -DQ_OS_FREEBSD -I. -Igenerators -Igenerators/unix -Igenerators/win32 -Igenerators/mac -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include/qmake -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/include -DQT_NO_TEXTCODEC -DQT_NO_UNICODETABLES -DQT_LITE_COMPONENT -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPRESS -I/Volumes/Main/sw/src/qt3-3.1.1-5/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/mkspecs/darwin-g++ option.cpp Now if your stil reading you would think "geeze, what a waste of bandwidth for him to paste all that in there". I agree! However think about the wasted CPU CYCLES my poor little g3-233 had to trudge through to compile all that nonsense!~ With c++ to top it all off! -Distribution includes everything including the kitchen sink 2.0 [zorton@uas-al-197-115 on ttyp2] [07:01am] [/sw/src]du -s qt3-3.1.1-5/ 73736 qt3-3.1.1-5 Heck I think I can remeber doing installs of Xfree that where smaller :) Okay rant done, I had to vent. I suppose it's all the more frustrating when your load is upwards of 3.0 and has been for 5 hours. Seeing my little machine gleefully compile code for things I obviously don't use is enough for me to open a fund called "Justin needs a G4 upgrade" care of Justin. Justin Burket =-Signature not found, reason: lazyness-= ------------------------------------ This is the Juneau-LUG mailing list. To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to juneau-lug-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject header.