[juneau-lug] Re: Local hosting

  • From: Talley family <talleys@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: juneau-lug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:27:15 -0900

Hi Sean, Larry Talley here.  Glad to hear from you!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: juneau-lug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:juneau-lug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of bdk
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:15 AM
> To: juneau-lug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [juneau-lug] Re: Local hosting
> 
> 
> It has been years James... ACS moved my wife and I up here to 
> Los Anchorage 2 summers ago as part of the whole SOA/ACS 
> project, that went defunct (by no virtue of me moving of 
> course :) ), spent time as a Level 2 Internet Tech and now I 
> work in the ACS NOC as an IP Engineer (Router monkey/ Jr.  Sys Admin).
> 
> When I sent my initial email to the list in reply, it got 
> bounced because a reverse didn't exist for my own server. I 
> had to add a PTR record last night so the 'freelist' would 
> take my message. If you still have a static, let me know if 
> you would like a 'zuelow.net' PTR.
> 
> I know ACS has a tucows mirror so I'm asking the people that 
> do the setting up of that what it would take to start 
> mirroring some Linux distros. In previous conversations with 
> some of the other engineers co-lo'ing has come up and I 
> remember them saying that real estate is expensive so it has 
> to be in the form of rack mounts; so I'm inquiring about that 
> too. At work we get to choose which OS we run. Some run 
> Windows, some run BSD, Slack, Knoppix, Damn Small Linux, Mac. 
> I ran Debian initially, now we're going to shared 
> workstations so default is windows and now I'm looking to get 
> Knoppix configured on on my USB drive. There are a lot of 
> *nix users at work so it would only seem natural that we 
> would do some mirroring.
> 
> This is what I've done to solve hosting issues for myself... 
> Last summer ACS started adding static IPs & routed networks, 
> up to a /27 for free with business DSL. Normally static IPs 
> were $10 and a /30 was $10, /29 $20, /28 $50 and so on. Now 
> with regular business DSL accounts you get those for free. In 
> order to get business DSL, I had to get a business grade POTS 
> line (Centrex) which costs a little more, you get more 
> features (distinctive rings, 7 digit call xfer, etc) but you 
> end up saving big with the addons. You also open up the 
> possibility for symmetric speeds with ADSL of 640/640, 
> 768/768, 1024/1024, and the regular 1280/320 is cheaper then 
> on a residential. I just asked the accountant and she said 
> that we spend $72 incl taxes on the land line and 1280/320. 
> For free I have my own static IP and a /28, 14 IP routed 
> non-NAT network. Within that network I have private lan 
> router, 2 web/email servers, a DNS server, Wifi and co-lo'ing 
> 2 boxes for a friend. We were running 640/640 for a while but 
> needed to save some cash so switched back down to 1280/320 a 
> couple weeks ago.
> 
> I started this whole home hosting process because I was fed 
> up with the various shared hosting solutions on the Internet, 
> lack of support and over selling.. WAY TOO much over selling. 
> I was spending $30 for resell hosting that was only working 
> 50% of the time. Now I'm spending $15 more on my Internet 
> package and I get to control EVERYTHING that goes on with the 
> boxes, connection, etc...
> 
> -Sean
> 
> 
> james.zuelow@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: bdk <bdk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Thursday, March 9, 2006 10:41 am
> > Subject: [juneau-lug] Re: Local hosting
> > 
> > 
> >>Free pipe as in free DSL? Or free ethernet connectivity? 
> When I worked 
> >>in Internet Tech Support for ACS there were some non-profit groups 
> >>thatwere comp'd services, not sure how much or what kind but it is 
> >>somethingthat I can look into for you guys. I may not live 
> in Juneau 
> >>anymore but as I idle through this list it does seem to 
> feel closer. 
> >>:)
> >>
> >>-Sean
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sean, it's good to hear from you - it's literally been years!
> > 
> > I think that the JLUG website is fairly well taken care of 
> right now.  
> > I've still got the domain, Jamie is doing the webmaster duties, and 
> > Myron is hosting the box.  So we've got the duties a little more 
> > spread out now. (And my wife isn't saying "what's THAT computer 
> > doing?" anymore.)
> > 
> > I started the thread because I'm not happy with my current hosting 
> > provider - AIT.  I picked them when I was home on leave over 
> > Christmas, my wife was dismantling my computer room, and 
> they were the 
> > first hit on Google.  Unfortunately I missed aitsucks.com, which 
> > describes many of the problems I'm having now. Such as 
> having to log 
> > into my Army webmail just to send e-mail to the list since 
> AIT wants 
> > to misconfigure mail.zuelow.net's reverse DNS for me.
> > 
> > Now I've got time to move away from them, and I was looking for 
> > something closer to home.  I'll probably give Chris a call, since I 
> > don't want to intrude on Myron's generosity too much.
> > 
> > But then again if you can find a friendly face that we can 
> talk to, it 
> > might give us options we haven't considered before AND that 
> might help ACS out as well.
> > 
> > Say, a local mirror of Debian, Fedora, etc.  I know that I hit the 
> > Debian mirrors from home and at work quite often.  If those 
> bits hit a 
> > mirror here in Juneau it would mean ACS would only need to 
> bring them 
> > up the pipe once.  The LUG could manage the servers, and 
> might even be 
> > able to come up with the hardware between us - so we'd just 
> need power 
> > and a pipe.
> > 
> > Wouldn't help GCI customers much though, but that's another battle.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > James
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