[juneau-lug] Re: Change to Debian solved
- From: woolsherpahat <woolsherpahat@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: juneau-lug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 16:55:08 -0800
Larry,
You are correct, "inches" is the diagonal measurement of your monitor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixels_per_inch#Calculation_of_monitor_PPI
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_displays_by_pixel_density
And as you mentioned, it will get you the optimum setting for
rendering but not necessarily for human readability.
Kevin Elliott
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Larry Hurlock <larrynorte@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Thanks!
> I now have the type of fonts I'm used to seeing. That was the important part.
>
> Googled "monitor resolution calculation" and the top site had my machine
> pre-calculated for me -- I wasn't sure which "inches" to use in your
> formula. Presumably "diagonal" but this took out the doubt. Returned an
> awfully small 77.19 PPI , which I am starting out with as my setting. Very
> small print, but awfully well rendered. And CTRL-+ is always handy until I
> get my personal preferences figured out.
>
> My machine is now complete and I have a distribution I will likely stick with
> for some time.
>
> Larry
>
> --- On Wed, 5/11/11, woolsherpahat <woolsherpahat@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> From: woolsherpahat <woolsherpahat@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [juneau-lug] Re: Change to Debian solved
> To: juneau-lug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wednesday, May 11, 2011, 1:43 PM
>
> Here's my recipe for nice looking fonts on Debian. If I recall right,
> autohinting is not enabled by default (at least in Lenny).
>
> 1) Install pretty fonts (you'll need non-free for mscorefonts):
> apt-get install ttf-dejavu ttf-liberation ttf-mscorefonts-installer
> xfonts-terminus
> 2) dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config, select Autohinter, Automatic and No
> 3) dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
> 4) Restart Xorg
> 5) Gnome-specific (these are largely personal preferences): System ->
> Preferences -> Appearances -> Fonts: Enable 'Best Shapes', Details ->
> Dots per Inch: XXX, Smoothing -> Grayscale
>
> You can calculate the DPI for your monitor and resolution using this formula:
> dpi = sqrt(resolutionWidth ^ 2 + resolutionHeight ^ 2) / inches
>
> and then feel free to adjust from there. For example: my 14" LCD works
> out to about about 87DPI, but I prefer something around 115.
>
>
> Kevin Elliott
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Larry Hurlock <larrynorte@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Kevin,
>> I stuck with Gnome. Started with Ubuntu KDE, but my next installation was
>> Gnome and I haven't gone back in subsequent installations.
>>
>> Debian runs like a bat out of hell on this machine. Scrolling is terrific.
>> In fact, it looks/acts like the Knoppix which is my "alternate computer
>> [f12]" on a flash drive. That is to say, the fonts are a very thin *serif*
>> font. I do miss the font look of Ubuntu, but wont' go back because of speed
>> issues. But why are the fonts looking so limited and often small to me? The
>> browser, where 90% of my reading is done, is set to web page default. The
>> CTRL-+ key combo has become an internalized motor reflex.
>>
>> Just discovered the "log file viewer" so I'll pass on some snippets that
>> might relate to fonts and display.
>>
>> Xorg.0.log:
>> (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
>> Entry deleted from font path.
>> (==) FontPath set to:
>> /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,
>> /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,
>> /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,
>> /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,
>> /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,
>> /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,
>> /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType,
>> built-ins
>> ...
>> [and as for my monitor, it is known to system correctly as a Viewsonic
>> 1440X900, but what is implied by it not being on the "Supported established
>> list?"
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): Supported established timings:
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 720x400@70Hz
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 640x480@60Hz
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 640x480@67Hz
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 640x480@72Hz
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 640x480@75Hz
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 800x600@56Hz
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 800x600@60Hz
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 800x600@72Hz
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 800x600@75Hz
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 832x624@75Hz
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 1024x768@60Hz
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 1024x768@70Hz
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 1024x768@75Hz
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 1280x1024@75Hz
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 1152x864@75Hz
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): Supported standard timings:
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): #0: hsize: 1440 vsize 900 refresh: 60 vid: 149
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): #1: hsize: 1440 vsize 900 refresh: 75 vid: 3989
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): #2: hsize: 1400 vsize 1050 refresh: 60 vid: 16528
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): #3: hsize: 1400 vsize 1050 refresh: 75 vid: 20368
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): #4: hsize: 1280 vsize 1024 refresh: 60 vid: 32897
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): #5: hsize: 1280 vsize 960 refresh: 60 vid: 16513
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): #6: hsize: 1152 vsize 864 refresh: 75 vid: 20337
>> (II) NOUVEAU(0): #7: hsize: 640 vsize 400 refresh: 70 vid: 2609
>>
>>
>> fontconfig.log:
>> /usr/share/fonts: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 3 dirs
>> /usr/share/fonts/X11: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 6 dirs
>> /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 0 dirs
>> /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 0 dirs
>> /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1: caching, new cache contents: 9 fonts, 0 dirs
>> /usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 1 dirs
>> /usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings/large: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts,
>> 0 dirs
>> /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 0 dirs
>> /usr/share/fonts/X11/util: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 0 dirs
>> /usr/share/fonts/truetype: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 7 dirs
>> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont: caching, new cache contents: 12 fonts, 0
>> dirs
>> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice: caching, new cache contents: 1 fonts,
>> 0 dirs
>> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu: caching, new cache contents: 21 fonts,
>> 0 dirs
>> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-liberation: caching, new cache contents: 12
>> fonts, 0 dirs
>> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lyx: caching, new cache contents: 9 fonts, 0
>> dirs
>> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-sil-gentium: caching, new cache contents: 4
>> fonts, 0 dirs
>> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-sil-gentium-basic: caching, new cache
>> contents: 8 fonts, 0 dirs
>> /usr/share/fonts/type1: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 2 dirs
>> /usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts: caching, new cache contents: 35 fonts, 0 dirs
>> /usr/share/fonts/type1/mathml: caching, new cache contents: 1 fonts, 0 dirs
>> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts: skipping, no such directory
>> /usr/local/share/fonts: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 0 dirs
>> /.fonts: skipping, no such directory
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Tue, 5/10/11, Kevin Miller <atftb2@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> From: Kevin Miller <atftb2@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [juneau-lug] Re: Change to Debian solved
>> To: juneau-lug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 8:22 AM
>>
>> On 05/10/2011 02:53 AM, Larry Hurlock wrote:
>>> Fellas, thanks to insomnia brought about by refusal to quit, the CUPS
>>> id problem got solved. By using "root" as my username on their form
>>> and providing my root/superuser password, I sneaked on to CUPS and
>>> was able to load my favorite driver so I now have a printer. "root"
>>> as a username, who knew? Sorry for the bother.
>>
>> Glad you got it sorted Larry. In ubuntu, the root account is more or
>> less disabled. You can easily go into it by doing 'sudo su root' and
>> then setting a password. Some religions mandate that one never log in
>> as root. Mortal sin. Only use sudo. Others are more understanding.
>> Debian is one of the latter. The root account is just another account,
>> which just happens to be able to do about anything on a system.
>>
>> When I manage my Debian system (or the openSUSE system at home) I just
>> open a terminal and do 'su -', enter the root password, and then do
>> whatever system stuff needs to be done. I find it much handier than
>> sudo in most cases.
>>
>> Did you go w/gnome or KDE?
>>
>> ...Kevin
>> --
>> Kevin Miller
>> Juneau, Alaska
>> http://www.alaska.net/~atftb
>> "In the history of the world, no one has ever washed a rented car."
>> - Lawrence Summers
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