Larry, You are correct, "inches" is the diagonal measurement of your monitor. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixels_per_inch#Calculation_of_monitor_PPI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_displays_by_pixel_density And as you mentioned, it will get you the optimum setting for rendering but not necessarily for human readability. Kevin Elliott On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Larry Hurlock <larrynorte@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Thanks! > I now have the type of fonts I'm used to seeing. That was the important part. > > Googled "monitor resolution calculation" and the top site had my machine > pre-calculated for me -- I wasn't sure which "inches" to use in your > formula. Presumably "diagonal" but this took out the doubt. Returned an > awfully small 77.19 PPI , which I am starting out with as my setting. Very > small print, but awfully well rendered. And CTRL-+ is always handy until I > get my personal preferences figured out. > > My machine is now complete and I have a distribution I will likely stick with > for some time. > > Larry > > --- On Wed, 5/11/11, woolsherpahat <woolsherpahat@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > From: woolsherpahat <woolsherpahat@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [juneau-lug] Re: Change to Debian solved > To: juneau-lug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Wednesday, May 11, 2011, 1:43 PM > > Here's my recipe for nice looking fonts on Debian. If I recall right, > autohinting is not enabled by default (at least in Lenny). > > 1) Install pretty fonts (you'll need non-free for mscorefonts): > apt-get install ttf-dejavu ttf-liberation ttf-mscorefonts-installer > xfonts-terminus > 2) dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config, select Autohinter, Automatic and No > 3) dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig > 4) Restart Xorg > 5) Gnome-specific (these are largely personal preferences): System -> > Preferences -> Appearances -> Fonts: Enable 'Best Shapes', Details -> > Dots per Inch: XXX, Smoothing -> Grayscale > > You can calculate the DPI for your monitor and resolution using this formula: > dpi = sqrt(resolutionWidth ^ 2 + resolutionHeight ^ 2) / inches > > and then feel free to adjust from there. For example: my 14" LCD works > out to about about 87DPI, but I prefer something around 115. > > > Kevin Elliott > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Larry Hurlock <larrynorte@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Kevin, >> I stuck with Gnome. Started with Ubuntu KDE, but my next installation was >> Gnome and I haven't gone back in subsequent installations. >> >> Debian runs like a bat out of hell on this machine. Scrolling is terrific. >> In fact, it looks/acts like the Knoppix which is my "alternate computer >> [f12]" on a flash drive. That is to say, the fonts are a very thin *serif* >> font. I do miss the font look of Ubuntu, but wont' go back because of speed >> issues. But why are the fonts looking so limited and often small to me? The >> browser, where 90% of my reading is done, is set to web page default. The >> CTRL-+ key combo has become an internalized motor reflex. >> >> Just discovered the "log file viewer" so I'll pass on some snippets that >> might relate to fonts and display. >> >> Xorg.0.log: >> (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist. >> Entry deleted from font path. >> (==) FontPath set to: >> /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, >> /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, >> /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, >> /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, >> /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, >> /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, >> /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType, >> built-ins >> ... >> [and as for my monitor, it is known to system correctly as a Viewsonic >> 1440X900, but what is implied by it not being on the "Supported established >> list?" >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): Supported established timings: >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 720x400@70Hz >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 640x480@60Hz >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 640x480@67Hz >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 640x480@72Hz >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 640x480@75Hz >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 800x600@56Hz >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 800x600@60Hz >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 800x600@72Hz >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 800x600@75Hz >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 832x624@75Hz >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 1024x768@60Hz >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 1024x768@70Hz >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 1024x768@75Hz >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 1280x1024@75Hz >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): 1152x864@75Hz >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): Supported standard timings: >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): #0: hsize: 1440 vsize 900 refresh: 60 vid: 149 >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): #1: hsize: 1440 vsize 900 refresh: 75 vid: 3989 >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): #2: hsize: 1400 vsize 1050 refresh: 60 vid: 16528 >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): #3: hsize: 1400 vsize 1050 refresh: 75 vid: 20368 >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): #4: hsize: 1280 vsize 1024 refresh: 60 vid: 32897 >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): #5: hsize: 1280 vsize 960 refresh: 60 vid: 16513 >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): #6: hsize: 1152 vsize 864 refresh: 75 vid: 20337 >> (II) NOUVEAU(0): #7: hsize: 640 vsize 400 refresh: 70 vid: 2609 >> >> >> fontconfig.log: >> /usr/share/fonts: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 3 dirs >> /usr/share/fonts/X11: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 6 dirs >> /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 0 dirs >> /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 0 dirs >> /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1: caching, new cache contents: 9 fonts, 0 dirs >> /usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 1 dirs >> /usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings/large: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, >> 0 dirs >> /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 0 dirs >> /usr/share/fonts/X11/util: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 0 dirs >> /usr/share/fonts/truetype: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 7 dirs >> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont: caching, new cache contents: 12 fonts, 0 >> dirs >> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice: caching, new cache contents: 1 fonts, >> 0 dirs >> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu: caching, new cache contents: 21 fonts, >> 0 dirs >> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-liberation: caching, new cache contents: 12 >> fonts, 0 dirs >> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lyx: caching, new cache contents: 9 fonts, 0 >> dirs >> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-sil-gentium: caching, new cache contents: 4 >> fonts, 0 dirs >> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-sil-gentium-basic: caching, new cache >> contents: 8 fonts, 0 dirs >> /usr/share/fonts/type1: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 2 dirs >> /usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts: caching, new cache contents: 35 fonts, 0 dirs >> /usr/share/fonts/type1/mathml: caching, new cache contents: 1 fonts, 0 dirs >> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts: skipping, no such directory >> /usr/local/share/fonts: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 0 dirs >> /.fonts: skipping, no such directory >> >> >> >> --- On Tue, 5/10/11, Kevin Miller <atftb2@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> From: Kevin Miller <atftb2@xxxxxxxxxx> >> Subject: [juneau-lug] Re: Change to Debian solved >> To: juneau-lug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 8:22 AM >> >> On 05/10/2011 02:53 AM, Larry Hurlock wrote: >>> Fellas, thanks to insomnia brought about by refusal to quit, the CUPS >>> id problem got solved. By using "root" as my username on their form >>> and providing my root/superuser password, I sneaked on to CUPS and >>> was able to load my favorite driver so I now have a printer. "root" >>> as a username, who knew? Sorry for the bother. >> >> Glad you got it sorted Larry. In ubuntu, the root account is more or >> less disabled. You can easily go into it by doing 'sudo su root' and >> then setting a password. Some religions mandate that one never log in >> as root. Mortal sin. Only use sudo. Others are more understanding. >> Debian is one of the latter. The root account is just another account, >> which just happens to be able to do about anything on a system. >> >> When I manage my Debian system (or the openSUSE system at home) I just >> open a terminal and do 'su -', enter the root password, and then do >> whatever system stuff needs to be done. I find it much handier than >> sudo in most cases. >> >> Did you go w/gnome or KDE? >> >> ...Kevin >> -- >> Kevin Miller >> Juneau, Alaska >> http://www.alaska.net/~atftb >> "In the history of the world, no one has ever washed a rented car." >> - Lawrence Summers >> ------------------------------------ >> The Juneau Linux Users Group -- http://www.juneau-lug.org >> This is the Juneau-LUG mailing list. >> To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to juneau-lug-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the >> word unsubscribe in the subject header. >> >> ------------------------------------ >> The Juneau Linux Users Group -- http://www.juneau-lug.org >> This is the Juneau-LUG mailing list. >> To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to juneau-lug-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the >> word unsubscribe in the subject header. >> > ------------------------------------ > The Juneau Linux Users Group -- http://www.juneau-lug.org > This is the Juneau-LUG mailing list. > To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to juneau-lug-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the > word unsubscribe in the subject header. > > ------------------------------------ > The Juneau Linux Users Group -- http://www.juneau-lug.org > This is the Juneau-LUG mailing list. > To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to juneau-lug-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the > word unsubscribe in the subject header. > ------------------------------------ The Juneau Linux Users Group -- http://www.juneau-lug.org This is the Juneau-LUG mailing list. 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