I'm working on getting Knewt walking with the Juice simulator. http://knewt.blogspot.com/ I'ld be very intrested in your biped control scheme... http://knewt.blogspot.com/ -KNEWT- Keith Rowell Design ( 706-923-0031 ----- Original Message ----- From: John Henckel To: juice-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 10:29 AM Subject: [juice-users] Re: hello anyone there I am using Juice to prototype and learn robot ai and balance. It's partly hobby for me and partly my job. I was a developer of Karma at Mathengine in Oxford. I am now working for EA on Renderware physics engine. Can I have the source code to Juice so I can port it to my own physics engine? The network idea is cool. Has anyone done a pogo stick? I think some kind of logic node would be useful in the network, like "if then". John Josh Burgess wrote: What are you doing? Quoting John Henckel <john@xxxxxxxxxxxx>: Does anyone have more examples of Network controllers, such as a walking bipedal robot?