Thank you Ernie. Yep - the article was rather in depth but I hope it provides a little enlightenment at all levels.. I missed the bits about the crew sitting back, drinking coffee and = arguing about their cars or the captain looking out of the window at a towering Cumulonimbus several miles away and saying "I see they've nuked Stoke." bones -----Original Message----- From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of = ErnieLaycock@xxxxxxx Sent: 16 November 2004 23:16 To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb_airlines] your article Hi John, Wow,you really have given us chair pilots something to think = about.Alastair has hit the nail on the head.You should be in the publishing business. = I am very much like Frank.I do things,but don't really know why things=20 happen,but as long as I get from here to there and down safely I am = OK.A superb=20 article,which will take an awful lot of sinking in. Cheers Ernie=20