[jhb_airlines] Re: tips

  • From: "Paul Reynolds" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:29:12 +0100

I tried to find the article you're referring to Bones but couldn't.  Is it
in print rather than online?  Yet I did discover an older article on
FlightSim.com where Shawn Firminger, head of Aces Studio is interviewed.  In
this article he states FSX wil be released as a 32 bit application but
optimised for Vista.  Quote "It is designed to run on legacy XP systems as
well as to take advantage of Windows Vista entertainment features when the
64-bit operating system is finally released to consumers in January 2007."
He goes on to say "Expect to see a Windows XP version released first
followed by an update for Windows Vista sometime after that".

The article dates back some 6-7 months so things may have changed though I
wouldn't hold my breath.  I suspect the "Vista Entertainment features"
refers to DirectX X routines which will be optimised for 64-bit.  In other
words, FSX is potentially a hybrid product. The initial release itself it is
a 32 bit application but where it passes data on for processing, this may be
done in 64-bit.  Whether they will then patch it to full 64-bit is open to

I don't expect to be getting FSX anytime soon although the temptation is
there.  How long I'll resist "the itch" I don't know.  It's one of those "I
want it but..."

With a fairly mediocre system by todays standards (AMD64 3200, 200Gb SATA
drive, 1Gb Ram, X300 PCI-Express graphics card) I think a new graphics card
comes first. After that it's dependant on finances, waiting on Vista being
among the options under consideration.  Not sure I'll hold out that long
though, depends on reactions to FSX over the next month or so.


-----Original Message-----
From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bones
Sent: 10 October 2006 15:10
To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: tips

Just check that Matrox data again. The G550 was the Millennium card that
came out some time ago and replaced the G500. It was originally available in
PCI and AGP versions.

Maybe the PCI-E version is new and updated but I'd heard that Matrox were
stepping away from the non professional market.

Andrew Herd has written a good article on FSX which is worth reading. There
are a couple of significant points - one being that the new sim now relies
far more on the graphics card rather than the brute power of the CPU. The
second is that you don't need a CD in the drive to use FSX as it is
activated online like Win XP. It also will not run on any Windows version
except Vista and XP2 - apparently not on an unpatched version of XP.


-----Original Message-----
From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mr Winskill
Sent: 10 October 2006 10:12
To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: tips

Back on line and I'd answered the first question in the reply to Frank;
having just come to your own, after.

System on the new one is:
Mobo            ASUS P5B
Processor       INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6700 (2 X 2.67GHZ) 1066MHZ FSB/4MB Cache
Graphics Card   256Mb Geforce 7600GT PCI-Express + DVI + TV Out
Memory          2048 Mb CORSAIR DDR2-667 PCS300
Hard Drive      SATA II 250Gb @ 7200rpm, 8Mb Cache
Hard Drive 2    SATA 11  80Gb @ 7200 rpm, just transferred from my old

Initial economies were on memory and the graphics card. If FSX dictates, and
cash available, I'll increase to 4096 Mb. On Shep's advice I went for the
7600GT, initially. The top end card was about £300 extra! He thinks prices
will plummet when DirectX X comes out and new cards have to be produced to
use it.

Only significant hitch, so far, apart from not being able to get on line
with anything but this laptop, is second graphics card. The new machine
won't recognise either of my old PCI cards. Getting decent information is
extremely difficult but it looks as though a PCI-Express card will only run
with others of that conformation. Whilst doing a trawl I came across news of
Matrox having launced the 550. This is PCI-E x 1, so I have three of those
slots available, as well as three PCI. The icing on the cake is that the 550
looks to be a genuine dual head, like my much missed Matrox 400 Dual Head
AGP; stil languishing in a drawer.

Gerry Winskil

Bones <bones@xxxxxxx> wrote :

> Yep - but what happens when you re-enable the second processor as
> suggested?
> Whilst you are here can you give us a rundown on your current system
> now?
> Mobo
> Graphics card
> memory
> hard drive
> bones
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jhb_airlines-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Mr Winskill
> Sent: 09 October 2006 22:29
> To: jhb_airlines@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jhb_airlines] Re: tips
> Frank,
> I've had a quick look at the first, CPU related, suggestion. In
> untouched state, with both processors ticked, CPU Useage is 54%, one
> processor burbling just below max and the other burbling along just
> above the baseline. FPS is about 57, at Ronaldsway.
> With only one processor ticked, CPU Useage is down to 51%. One
> processor is a straight line at max, the other barely discernible
> above baseline and fps probably about 2 to 3 lower than in the first
> situation.
> The Default was both running with FS9, which was producing marginally
> beter framerates.
> Brighter brains than mine my deduce something from this.
> Can't look at the effect of FSUIPC on blurries, since my version seems
> to have become unregistered, at some stage.
> Gerry Winskill
> Franklyn Fisher &lt;ff006c5886@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;
> wrote :
> &gt; I don't know if this will be of any use to you, but have just
> found &gt; it. &amp;gt; &amp;gt; DualCore Processors &gt; &amp;gt;
> &gt; &amp;gt; Start FS in windowed mode. &gt; &amp;gt; Press
> CTRL+ALT+DEL to get the task manager, click
> tab,
> and
> &gt; &amp;gt; observe that FS is only using one processor. &gt;
> &amp;gt; The left graph will show a heavy load, the right a light
> &gt; &amp;gt; Click on processes, and look for FS9.exe, and select
> Remove
> &gt; &amp;gt; the check mark from one processor.
> &gt; &amp;gt; Close the window and then repeat the process, and select
> both processors &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; again.
> &gt; &amp;gt; FS9 will now spread the load over the 2 processors.
> &gt; &amp;gt;
> &gt; &amp;gt; Or search the Microsoft Support for Dual core hot fix.
> &gt; &amp;gt;
> &gt; &amp;gt;
> &gt; &amp;gt; Blurries
> &gt; &amp;gt;
> &gt; &amp;gt; ie textures not loading fast enough
> &gt; &amp;gt; Check your visibility settings in the registered version of
> &gt; &amp;gt;
> &gt; &amp;gt; Hope this will be of help, or you already know this.
> &gt; &amp;gt;
> &gt; &amp;gt; Frank F
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